Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Mental 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I'd say WWII was more mental. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Laurence Olivier could have saved himself a lot of hassle with this beautiful summary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said: I'd say WWII was more mental. WWI could take WWII 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Mental 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 49 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Mental Wilfred Owen’s final poem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tony Ferrino said: Wilfred Owen’s final poem. Poignant 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Laurence Olivier could have saved himself a lot of hassle with this beautiful summary. I feel its accurate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 I've been watching a lot of documentaries on this recently. Started off with the Somme. Mental. My granddad actually lost two uncles in WWI, one at the Somme. Think they were in the Gordon Highlanders. This regiment like from Yorkshire or somewhere, marching to the front line on June 30th, attack was 1st July so they are going to the assault trenches. Marching along singing one of those old songs all happy and fearless etc. They walk past this massive pit that has been dug just behind the front line, like fifty yards long and twenty or thirty wide, very deep. They realise that's for them. Its a mass grave that's been dug in anticipation of the enormous amounts of casualties they are going to sustain. And they're going over the top in twelve hours time in the first wave. Walking past looking at that thinking I could be in there this time tomorrow. Mental. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: I've been watching a lot of documentaries on this recently. Started off with the Somme. Mental. My granddad actually lost two uncles in WWI, one at the Somme. Think they were in the Gordon Highlanders. This regiment like from Yorkshire or somewhere, marching to the front line on June 30th, attack was 1st July so they are going to the assault trenches. Marching along singing one of those old songs all happy and fearless etc. They walk past this massive pit that has been dug just behind the front line, like fifty yards long and twenty or thirty wide, very deep. They realise that's for them. Its a mass grave that's been dug in anticipation of the enormous amounts of casualties they are going to sustain. And they're going over the top in twelve hours time in the first wave. Walking past looking at that thinking I could be in there this time tomorrow. Mental. I'd recommend the Gallipoli mini series on Amazon Prime. I read decent ww1 book recently. Ring of Steel by Alexander Watson, giving a fairly detailed view of the war from the perspective of the central powers. Well worth checking out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Watched a time team special on this big f**k off flame thrower they made during WW1 pure steam punk killing machine so that gives WW1 the slight edge as it seemed more horrible with things like mustard gas the gatling guns and hand to hand crazyness. Edited July 7, 2020 by dirty dingus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 There are an interesting series of books on WW1 in the trenches by an author called Stuart Minor available on kindle unlimited. They are fictional but give a good depiction of live in trenches. For a true account the diary of George coppard is fascinating . The title is With a machine gun to Cambrai. Well worth a look. Dulce et decorum est Aye right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: I feel its accurate You’re not wrong. It’s insane that people had to go through that carnage and all it really did was create another war. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Funny enough I was reading a bit about the pals' batallions, and in particular McRae's Battalion, earlier. Now, I'm no military strategist, but who the f**k thought it was a great idea to have entire villages serve in the same fucking battalion, meaning that when the battalion was inevitably wiped out by whatever shite tactics they were using that day entire villages were losing almost their entire stock of working-age men? It took me about 15 seconds of reading this to realise it was a shite idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Dan Carlin's Blueprint for Armageddon series is a good listen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tynierose said: Dulce et decorum est Aye right. The full phrase originally coined by Horace the Poet and oft quoted by people who've never been within a million miles of dying for their country. Edited July 7, 2020 by Shotgun 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, Gaz said: Funny enough I was reading a bit about the pals' batallions, and in particular McRae's Battalion, earlier. Now, I'm no military strategist, but who the f**k thought it was a great idea to have entire villages serve in the same fucking battalion, meaning that when the battalion was inevitably wiped out by whatever shite tactics they were using that day entire villages were losing almost their entire stock of working-age men? It took me about 15 seconds of reading this to realise it was a shite idea. If only the top brass and the Royals had formed a Pals Battalion and went over the top on the first day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said: If only the top brass and the Royals had formed a Pals Battalion and went over the top on the first day. I miss the days when Kings and the aristocracy led armies into battle and fought alongside them. Bring that rule back, apply it to Presidents and Prime Ministers too and we'll be living in peace and harmony 'till the end of time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Shotgun said: I miss the days when Kings and the aristocracy led armies into battle and fought alongside them. Bring that rule back, apply it to Presidents and Prime Ministers too and we'll be living in peace and harmony 'till the end of time. The number of junior officers killed on the Somme and in other battles was out of proportion to ordinary soldiers. 17% of officers died compared to 12% of other ranks. These were in the main junior officers who climbed out of the trenches with their men but Britain lost about 230 Generals too, a casualty rate of about 18%. These were the aristocracy - or more often the sons of aristocracy so no real change from medieval times. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Heart of Midlothian thread for this pish please. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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