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20 minutes ago, ali_91 said:

This is lazy and absolute nonsense by the way. There is absolutely no comparison between the far right and the far left other than both tend to be set in their ways and don’t really have much time for opposing opinions. That’s where the similarities end.

The far right hate people based on anything that makes them different, hence why you see thousands and thousands of tweets talking about multi-culturism failing  as soon as there is any hint of an attack. These people are despicable and hold despicable opinions.

The far left jump to premature conclusions because they are desperate to protect the people that are oppressed in this country. Whilst they can be a bit nuts and unreasonable, their hearts tend to be in a good place.

The only people that seem to want to say ‘two cheeks one arse‘ are those on the centre right.  
 

Happy to hear a rebuttal on why they are as bad as each other, but got a feeling It will be a massive stretch whatever you come up with.

 

Wrang thread, comrade.

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11 minutes ago, Archie McSquackle said:

Cops are more likely to take the view that a cop has been stabbed and could have probably avoided it if he was armed.

In this case, armed police appear to have arrived on the scene very quickly- are they just routinely stationed in city centres?

 

It's not so many years ago I can clearly recall armed police officers apprehending a shoplifter in Poundland in Inverness High St.

There's a lot to said for a "no nonsense" approach to fighting crime in this day and age.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

It's not so many years ago I can clearly recall armed police officers apprehending a shoplifter in Poundland in Inverness High St.

There's a lot to said for a "no nonsense" approach to fighting crime on this day and age.

Shoot to kill in Poundland?

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53 minutes ago, ali_91 said:

This is lazy and absolute nonsense by the way. There is absolutely no comparison between the far right and the far left other than both tend to be set in their ways and don’t really have much time for opposing opinions. That’s where the similarities end.

The far right hate people based on anything that makes them different, hence why you see thousands and thousands of tweets talking about multi-culturism failing  as soon as there is any hint of an attack. These people are despicable and hold despicable opinions.

The far left jump to premature conclusions because they are desperate to protect the people that are oppressed in this country. Whilst they can be a bit nuts and unreasonable, their hearts tend to be in a good place.

The only people that seem to want to say ‘two cheeks one arse‘ are those on the centre right.  
 

Happy to hear a rebuttal on why they are as bad as each other, but got a feeling It will be a massive stretch whatever you come up with.

 

The far left did kill approximately 100 million people last century...but other than that, they're lovely people. 

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When I started work a lassie I worked with mentioned there was a load of polis motors flying toward Union Street and then come out to join ma pal on their fag break and I had half a dozen messages from folk around the world asking if I was alright. Weird how this stuff happens ten minute walk away but someone in New Zealand knows what's happened afore me.

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36 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

It's not so many years ago I can clearly recall armed police officers apprehending a shoplifter in Poundland in Inverness High St.

There's a lot to said for a "no nonsense" approach to fighting crime in this day and age.

 

 

I saw armed police hassling a busker on the High Street once. Think they gave up on it after a few weeks of getting laughed at.

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1 minute ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

Scottish Ambulance Services just asked folk to only dial 999 in an emergency because they've sent a number of ambulances to the scene

Aren't ye supposed to only dial 999 in an emergency anyway?

I’ve just rang and asked. 

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2 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Someone needs to get these guys better clobber. 

Jeans, sheuxs and sub machine is a bad look. 

"Gareth! Scott and Steven have been shot deid, where the f**k are you?!" 

"Um, I... I was making sure the Hyundai was locked." 

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1 hour ago, ali_91 said:

This is lazy and absolute nonsense by the way. There is absolutely no comparison between the far right and the far left other than both tend to be set in their ways and don’t really have much time for opposing opinions. That’s where the similarities end.

Happy to hear a rebuttal on why they are as bad as each other, but got a feeling It will be a massive stretch whatever you come up with.

 

The actual politics of what they lobby for vary wildly, this much is true. 

The means by which they hope to achieve their aims though? Not so much. Both sides very much have a 'comply or die' mindset and not having a lot of time for even hearing out any opinions other than the ones they hold is a dangerous byproduct of this. We know that this has always been the case with the far right but it's surprised me to see it from the more liberal, 'tolerant' left.

 

What has now become of cancel culture, to my eyes is an example of this. It started off with purely good intentions - a strong message that people who were consistently, outwardly and openly promoting hate speech, should be called out for a history of dreadful behaviour but it has now morphed completely into threatening to ruin livelihoods of anyone who has ever so much as either set a foot wrong, or did something that someone else interprets as such.

As an example, I watched someone on YouTube the other week who posts travel videos, post a grovelling apology because they went to a party 10 years ago where the party theme was 'Urban' and because he had gone with something like a fucking FUBU tracksuit and Marc Ecco cap on, that was enough for someone to pick up on this and decide that he and his wife were raging bigots. That was it. Nothing aggressive or racist. No hate speech. No blacking up. Nothing that could rationally or reasonably be deemed as offensive or inappropriate. And people jumped on it in a big way.

I don't think it's difficult to go through life and avoid doing harm or be afraid of people of other races, sexual preferences and belief systems to my own. I reserve the right to disagree and have a debate, however heated and also reserve the right to believe someone with different viewpoints to my own may have some well thought out or valid points. I also reserve the right to call them a c**t at the end of it, if I feel they don't but not to be so fragile that I actively lobby to silence them for it. Both far ends of the political spectrum do not share this trait though and will actively try to shut the other down to build themselves up.

 

Anyhoo, no doubt this will qualify as a 'massive stretch' in your eyes (and you're a c**t for that) but surely if you put your rational hat on, you can see how they, despite different reasons for doing so are both on very similar, very slippery slopes.

I'd never say they were two cheeks of the same arse, more two separate arses in one another's vicinity.

Still firmly on the left though, let people do what the f**k they like and come from anywhere to so. As long as they aren't hurting people in doing what they are doing, why should anyone give a shit?

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1 hour ago, ali_91 said:

This is lazy and absolute nonsense by the way. There is absolutely no comparison between the far right and the far left other than both tend to be set in their ways and don’t really have much time for opposing opinions. That’s where the similarities end.

The far right hate people based on anything that makes them different, hence why you see thousands and thousands of tweets talking about multi-culturism failing  as soon as there is any hint of an attack. These people are despicable and hold despicable opinions.

The far left jump to premature conclusions because they are desperate to protect the people that are oppressed in this country. Whilst they can be a bit nuts and unreasonable, their hearts tend to be in a good place.

The only people that seem to want to say ‘two cheeks one arse‘ are those on the centre right.  
 

Happy to hear a rebuttal on why they are as bad as each other, but got a feeling It will be a massive stretch whatever you come up with.

 

They do share some stuff in common, like hating centrists more than they do each other, and a grudging admiration for Mr Putin and his news channel.

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4 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Anyhoo, no doubt this will qualify as a 'massive stretch' in your eyes (and you're a c**t for that) 

Remember that time this fella was having a wee grumble about the intolerant left whilst the centrist chads like himself were more enlightened and not all about intolerance and how people holding different opinions being treated as pariahs and prejudiced was a bad thing then immediately called someone a c**t for a position that they have no idea that they hold because he already prejudiced that person in their mind?

 

Good times.

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1 minute ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

Remember that time this fella was having a wee grumble about the intolerant left whilst the centrist chads like himself were more enlightened and not all about intolerance and how people holding different opinions being treated as pariahs and prejudiced was a bad thing then immediately called someone a c**t for a position that they have no idea that they hold because he already prejudiced that person in their mind?

 

Good times.

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I reserve the right to disagree and have a debate, however heated and also reserve the right to believe someone with different viewpoints to my own may have some well thought out or valid points. I also reserve the right to call them a c**t at the end of it, if I feel they don't but not to be so fragile that I actively lobby to silence them for it. Both far ends of the political spectrum do not share this trait though and will actively try to shut the other down to build themselves up.

 

Anyhoo, no doubt this will qualify as a 'massive stretch' in your eyes (and you're a c**t for that) but surely if you put your rational hat on, you can see how they, despite different reasons for doing so are both on very similar, very slippery slopes.

 

Oh Mick...of all the the folk, I didn't think this wee joke would have gone over your head.

Disappointed. :( 

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1 hour ago, ali_91 said:

Happy to hear a rebuttal on why they are as bad as each other, but got a feeling It will be a massive stretch whatever you come up with.

Stalin?  He was as much of the Left as Hitler was of the Right.  At some point left and right break down as being useful terms.  Both the Communists and the Nazis believed in state control of the economy and its commanding heights,  essentially transferring wealth into the military, arrogating all power to a self-appointed and immovable elite.   Although the Nazis privatized things, they made damn sure that those private companies were run by Nazis, and then eliminated small businesses so the state retained control.

 

It's whether this is a natural consequence of following a hardline dogma or whether they abandoned it entirely basically to ensure everything was in their personal control.  I'm damned if I know, the biggest purely socialist organizations on the planet seem to be kibbutzim. 

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