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26 minutes ago, Burnieman said:

At no point have the EoS ever stated that clubs would be punished for being unable to field a team due to Covid issues.  That is false for a start.

You're defensiveness is absurd to the point of accusing me of this or that.  "clubs you don't like"? you think I have something against Arthurlie or Pollok or anyone for that matter? FFS.   "You're almost hoping....they go out of business"  what? you need to calm yourself down son.

Pie and Bovril eh........

 

It was all fine before you appeared. Row in an empty hoose, you’d cause.

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12 minutes ago, Arthurlie1981 said:

 

Firstly, don’t call me son its demeaning.

He's demeaned yourself, he's slagged off all the teams in the West that have withdrawn calling them a cabal and slagged of all their committees for not adapting to the financial situation. Some guy Burnieman eh !! Oh and it'll still be thats PnB for you. 

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13 minutes ago, Crazy Feet said:

If the leagues go ahead without Promotion from The Conference being available I can see a few Conference Clubs flinging the towel in. You can't keep a squad of players motivated for a full season of friendlies.

...at the very least they need to dream up some meaningful alternative incentive for being the champion of each section. Maybe something cup format related that gets them some extra playing time against Premiership teams in 2021/22? Beyond that, if a club like Darvel or Kilwinning can get licensed in time to move up to the LL for 2021/22 by winning the Premier and then beating the EoS and/or SoS champions, it isn't completely impossible that there will be a promotion place up for grabs. Maybe they need to talk that possibility up a bit more and they could give the overall Conference champion some kind of delayed guaranteed promotion playoff place for entry into the Premier in 2022/23 if that doesn't happen for them in 2021/22.

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5 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

...at the very least they need to dream up some meaningful alternative incentive for being the champion of each section. Beyond that, if a club like Darvel or Kilwinning can get licensed in time to move up to the LL for 2021/22 by winning the Premier and then beating the EoS and/or SoS champions, it isn't completely impossible that there will be a promotion place up for grabs. Maybe they need to talk that possibility up a bit more.

This whole pyramid thing is pie in the sky only for glory hunters with sugar daddies ……… Cove and Kelly come to mind.

Lets take Darvel as an example there are already a SPFL and Championship teams within 15 -20 miles of Darvel so the area needs another “professional “ team like a hole in the head.

The same goes for most of the teams in the west of Scotland they would all be chasing the same fans 

Don’t agree with a lot of what Anne Budge says but one thing she said which was correct for the size of the country population wise we have too many professional teams 

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19 minutes ago, Lobby Dossar said:

Don’t agree with a lot of what Anne Budge says but one thing she said which was correct for the size of the country population wise we have too many professional teams 

It's not that we have too many professional teams (there are only around 22 full time professional clubs).  The problem is that we have too many semi-professional clubs who have a disproportionate influence on how the fully professional game is run, e.g. a half a dozen part time clubs in SPFL L1 and L2 can block a league reconstruction that has the  unanimous backing of all the full time clubs.

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9 minutes ago, Lobby Dossar said:

This whole pyramid thing is pie in the sky only for glory hunters with sugar daddies ……… Cove and Kelly come to mind.

Lets take Darvel as an example there are already a SPFL and Championship teams within 15 -20 miles of Darvel so the area needs another “professional “ team like a hole in the head.

The same goes for most of the teams in the west of Scotland they would all be chasing the same fans 

Don’t agree with a lot of what Anne Budge says but one thing she said which was correct for the size of the country population wise we have too many professional teams 

Does budge think if there were only Premier and championship. And1&2 teams. Their stadiums would be full to bursting. From fans of leagues below those  divisions. Jumping on board another team? 

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17 hours ago, lithgierose said:

Why don't the sg tell us the health condition. And the ages of the people who die from covid. That would at least remove at least some of the fear factor surely. 

What do you need to know? It's pretty common knowledge even if you don't know the exact figures.

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31 minutes ago, lithgierose said:

Does budge think if there were only Premier and championship. And1&2 teams. Their stadiums would be full to bursting. From fans of leagues below those  divisions. Jumping on board another team? 

Ok let’s take Linlithgow within a 20 -25 mile radius we have at present Livingston, Hearts, Hibs, Dunfermline, Cowdenbeath, East Fife, Stirling, Motherwell, Airdrie and probably Hamilton …… 9 clubs within a 20-25mile radius 

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35 minutes ago, lithgierose said:

Does budge think if there were only Premier and championship. And1&2 teams. Their stadiums would be full to bursting. From fans of leagues below those  divisions. Jumping on board another team? 

Excellent point, do they think we’d all be lining up to go watch Thistle or something? Anne Budge and her like are the problem with Scottish football not small clubs who give back to their communities. 

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8 hours ago, Jack Burton said:

It isn't as cheap as what you think to stream the games. You need to fork out for the camera, laptop, software and hardware to stream the games. Renting or buying there us still a cost attached to it. Pinning your hopes on a grant would be foolish. Even if there is one by the time it filters down to this level it won't amount to much.

The only sensible thing to do was to delay the season and review it again in January. By then the latest measures would have had time.

What is the point in clubs at this level playing behind closed doors when the majority won't be streaming the games. Plus you have no promotion or relegation. It's no surprise that it is the bigger clubs with the bigger outlays that don't think it makes sense to play.

Well I whole heartedly agree with you on a delay and review. It would have been the correct decision. Cant understand the desire by most to rush into the 24th 

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2 hours ago, Lobby Dossar said:

Ok let’s take Linlithgow within a 20 -25 mile radius we have at present Livingston, Hearts, Hibs, Dunfermline, Cowdenbeath, East Fife, Stirling, Motherwell, Airdrie and probably Hamilton …… 9 clubs within a 20-25mile radius 

You missed the closest. Falkirk

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3 hours ago, Lobby Dossar said:

This whole pyramid thing is pie in the sky only for glory hunters with sugar daddies ……… Cove and Kelly come to mind.

Lets take Darvel as an example there are already a SPFL and Championship teams within 15 -20 miles of Darvel so the area needs another “professional “ team like a hole in the head.

The same goes for most of the teams in the west of Scotland they would all be chasing the same fans 

Don’t agree with a lot of what Anne Budge says but one thing she said which was correct for the size of the country population wise we have too many professional teams 

I'd be seriously worried long term if I was Cowdenbeath, Stenhousemuir, Stirling Albion etc.

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5 hours ago, cmontheloknow said:

31 West sides voted against starting now - why 17 decided that was not enough to also pull out is up to them. And why of the 6 of the initial 14 changed their mind is also up to them. Let's see who stays in as the next few days / weeks unfold.

Already a few teams in the lower Leagues who voted to start having discussions about the reality of life without money

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