Marshmallo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Clubs repeatedly bleating about players not being able to get a shower in their statements dilutes the decent points they make. I play in five a side games with guys from Stirling and Ayr who come to Glasgow and have done this every week for years. There are many valid reasons not to play but that is not one of them. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny*******Powers Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Clubs repeatedly bleating about players not being able to get a shower in their statements dilutes the decent points they make. I play in five a side games with guys from Stirling and Ayr who come to Glasgow and have done this every week for years. There are many valid reasons not to play but that is not one of them. Different story playing fives than rolling about the mud in winter for 90 mins 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kenny*******Powers said: Different story playing fives than rolling about the mud in winter for 90 mins If it's that or no football then it's a pretty easy decision -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny*******Powers Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, Marshmallo said: If it's that or no football then it's a pretty easy decision Football with no fans, promotion or relegation? No thanks! Glorified friendlies for a season when there is not a chance of the season being completed. We will see how many teams last the season. I find it staggering that 70% of clubs said they wouldn’t last 4 weeks without fans but only 14 had the balls to pull out 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Kenny*******Powers said: Football with no fans, promotion or relegation? No thanks! Glorified friendlies for a season when there is not a chance of the season being completed. We will see how many teams last the season. I find it staggering that 70% of clubs said they wouldn’t last 4 weeks without fans but only 14 had the balls to pull out Those are all perfectly valid points. Not having access to a shower is not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Form an orderly que guys -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesel1994 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 40 minutes ago, Darvel legend said: Fair play to whitletts and one I 100% agree with and i suspect it won’t be the last statement I read like this over the weekend For some they may look at the number of clubs continuing and may withdraw their withdrawal vote. I think for their fans they'd be wise getting a statement out as their names will likely be known on Sunday evening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, gogsy said: Is it safe to start doing anything ?Has anybody caught coronavirus from playing football? My sister tested +ve on Thursday … no symptoms what so ever and she feels fine but is now having to quarantine for 14 days along with her close contacts. Only reason she was tested was because she works in adult social care and has been tested weekly for the last few months How many people going about their daily business with the virus and have no idea that they have it and how many people then catch it from them but they show symptoms get tested and a + ve result comes back. There lies the problem for all of us We need to go to supermarkets and try and keep some of the economy running ………… absolutely no need for junior/semi professional ( say that tongue in cheek ) clubs to be playing football never mind having fans at the game. If anyone on here thinks, apart from maybe half a dozen clubs, are anywhere near professional their having a giraffe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lobby Dossar said: My sister tested +ve on Thursday … no symptoms what so ever and she feels fine but is now having to quarantine for 14 days along with her close contacts. Only reason she was tested was because she works in adult social care and has been tested weekly for the last few months How many people going about their daily business with the virus and have no idea that they have it and how many people then catch it from them but they show symptoms get tested and a + ve result comes back. There lies the problem for all of us We need to go to supermarkets and try and keep some of the economy running ………… absolutely no need for junior/semi professional ( say that tongue in cheek ) clubs to be playing football never mind having fans at the game. If anyone on here thinks, apart from maybe half a dozen clubs, are anywhere near professional their having a giraffe But there lies the problem with the virus and why people are getting upset about it because she showed no symptons and a lot of people are like that so the virus isn't strong enough to over come them. Which is the same for many viruses. One scientist said its how many are in hospital with it is the real figure rather than how many actually have it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Kilbirnie Ladeside are the first WoS Premier teams saying they're taking the year out. Quote Club Statement It is with the deepest of regret that the Football Club announce that we are one of the 14 clubs who have issued our intentions to withdraw from the West of Scotland Football League for season 2020-2021. Our primary deliberations centre on 2 key factors. The inability not to allow our supporters into Valefield Park is a huge issue for us. Our support have requested that we do not start without them, we cannot ignore their request. Over the past 6 months their financial support of their club has been exceptional and not unexpected as they continue to be our foundation. There is a strong possibility that fans will not be allowed in this season and this was high in our deliberations. Supporters are the life blood of every club. The health & wellbeing of our players should and must be of the highest priority also, as employers we have a duty of care to them. We have witnessed over the last few weeks the impact of not having changing facilities and showers has had on our players. This is not an acceptable practice and could lead to potential litigation and more importantly ill health to our playing squad especially as we enter winter with no clear end in sight when and if facilities will become available. Taking the two key factors above into account we had no alternative but to take the course of action we now take and withdraw from this current season. We would like to put on record our extreme & grateful thanks to Martin, Des and all our players for their commitment and understanding over the last few difficult months. We will come back stronger and it will be together. Kilbirnie Ladeside FC Committee. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darvel legend Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Kilbirnie Ladeside are the first WoS Premier teams saying they're taking the year out. And there lies a club with the community at heart 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Kilbirnie Ladeside are the first WoS Premier teams saying they're taking the year out. On the money here. Well done KL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: On the money here. Well done KL. How is it. There is already rules that will allow them to use changing rooms. Just it will take a few weeks to get through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 By the way I hope Kilbirnie and the other clubs come back stronger next season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: But there lies the problem with the virus and why people are getting upset about it because she showed no symptons and a lot of people are like that so the virus isn't strong enough to over come them. Which is the same for many viruses. One scientist said its how many are in hospital with it is the real figure rather than how many actually have it. Yip totally agree, but to others it is deadly, unfortunately you cannot choose who you pass the virus onto and there in lies the problem. I’ve said in previous post everything is fine until it’s one of your family or close friend who ends up in intensive care 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Darvel legend said: And there lies a club with the community at heart Correct bud. It's what it's all about. The supporters were consulted. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: How is it. There is already rules that will allow them to use changing rooms. Just it will take a few weeks to get through. Go and read the rules then see what the majority of clubs have put in place ……… it’s not acceptable at youth football never mind supposedly professional football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darvel legend Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, clash city rocker said: Correct bud. It's what it's all about. The supporters were consulted. I read that and im No so sure how many clubs will have done that so fair play to them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: How is it. There is already rules that will allow them to use changing rooms. Just it will take a few weeks to get through. Here they are for you Scottish Government guidance currently states; Changing rooms are an area of increased risk of transmission. It is important that physical distancing is maintained in changing rooms and showers and that they are only used if essential. Use of changing rooms and showering facilities should in general be avoided where possible, although these must be available for participants with disabilities or special needs and are likely to be needed after swimming Our advice to clubs playing in the Betfred Cup is that in line with the above, changing rooms may be used under the following conditions • Clubs and facility owners have a legal obligation to comply with all sportscotland/SG legislation and ensure guidance is followed at all times. The checklist and relevant information are all available on our Return to Football Hub. • Clubs must submit relevant operational plans and documentation to its League. • The League must satisfy itself that all plans submitted are appropriate and meet the regulations and approve the use of changing facilities. We would recommend that Leagues conduct site visits to ensure procedures are as per the submitted documents. • The Scottish FA can request site of club operational plans other relevant information and perform site visits at any time. • At this stage dressing rooms CANNOT be used on a rotational basis by the same team – ie 5 players changing, they leave and another 5 enter and change. • Showers are not permitted under any circumstances If have attached an updated version of the approved numbers document which was circulate last week. The fundamentals are the same, however the zoning colours have been changed to better reflect the Return to Play protocol document and the fact that stadiums have a bigger red zone than just the changing rooms and technical areas, that can and will extend into the stand in most cases. The challenge in tiers 5 and below is that some games are in stadiums and some are not so there is an element of both needed. We are reviewing both to ensure consistency and will advise of any changes asap. These documents should be used in the meantime. We must all be aware that Scottish football will continue to have positive tests. When this happens, Test and Protect will investigate the circumstances and SG will ask the Scottish FA to carry out an examination of processes and facilities. This can affect us all and it is therefore absolutely incumbent of the league body to ensure that the law is being followed at all times. I appreciate the desire to use changing rooms however football is not ‘back’ as it used to be. We cannot be lax with this and not check plans properly, it is not simply a tick box exercise. The reputational damage to the game as a whole is too significant. Now tell me exactly how many club will meet this criteria???? They can kid themselves on but once they receive the site visit the bubble will be burst 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Lobby Dossar said: ...How many people going about their daily business with the virus and have no idea that they have it and how many people then catch it from them but they show symptoms get tested and a + ve result comes back. There lies the problem for all of us ... ...or maybe it shows the virus is not as big a deal as we were originally led to believe it would be and is something we are just going to have to learn to live with, if it turns out to be more than a one and done sort of event (there's actually a very good chance it won't even without a vaccine)? Older people have been dying of respiratory viral infections in significant numbers every winter in Scotland for many centuries and there has been at least one flu pandemic in the past (in 1918) that has been significantly worse than COVID-19 in mortality rate terms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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