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17 minutes ago, qwerty said:

What about the fans? Obviously the clubs that voted to start without the fans don't give a fk about their fans,

If you think that then you won't have noticed clubs getting behind the #LetFansIn movement or trying to find ways to be accessible to their fans while working within current restrictions.

A season that starts and has clubs & fans campaigning for fans to get back in attendance will probably have more chance in gaining change.

At least compared to closing up shop for an indefinite period of time, that's already going 7+ months. It's kind of hard to justify that non-league clubs are vital to their community when they can just stop for maybe a year or more.

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3 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said:

If I jump off a bridge, must you follow?

Don't do it please x

It will be ignorance to individual circumstances on my part but I don't really get why clubs in the West would differ to those in the East.

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The LetFansIn movement is crackers. It might have worked in July or August - but now, as we head towards a rise in covid cases - putting increased pressure on hospitals? Yeah right. Before some libertarian #letthemalldie comes on, it's not about deaths, it's about the NHS being able to cope with hospitalisations, not just in terms of bricks and mortar but staffing too.

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2 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

Don't do it please x

It will be ignorance to individual circumstances on my part but I don't really get why clubs in the West would differ to those in the East.

We don't know how the clubs were split in East though, all LL have an opt out up til xmas with no penality.

In West, clubs with wage bills don't want to play without a major source of income.

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2 minutes ago, gogsy said:

Nothing there to suggest cases are currently doubling every day as sweep claims is there'?

 if we are playing pick a graph heres one

https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/

Go to daily positive cases by council area. 

 

bookmark my link and keep an eye on it over the next wee while. I will stick to official data when available.

Cases aren't doubling every day, but they are doubling every 7-10 days (J Leitch, yesterday).

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3 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said:

bookmark my link and keep an eye on it over the next wee while. I will stick to official data when available.

Cases aren't doubling every day, but they are doubling every 7-10 days (J Leitch, yesterday).

I stand corrected. So that means it is safe to start playing football?

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7 minutes ago, gogsy said:

Has anybody caught coronavirus from playing football?

Whether people catch covid from playing football is immaterial. The amateur game goes on. What is being discussed here is the sense of PAID players playing without any income (and officials need paying too on top of that).

That said, it is a gathering of 50+ workplaces (two squads, two management teams, two sets of committee members, however limited, maybe 3 match officials). It is a chance for the virus to spread (without supervision). People are not following protocols. I saw players last weekend breaking social distancing guidelines. I watched people hanging over the wall during Musselburgh v LTHV last night.

My avatar is John Bishop playing for Southport in 1990. Today's opponents have cancelled because of Covid in the team. It's the latest example of many down there. We have had various matches off up here and that will continue. Disruption, chaos, mayhem, stress - for what?

 

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2 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said:

Whether people catch covid from playing football is immaterial. The amateur game goes on. What is being discussed here is the sense of PAID players playing without any income (and officials need paying too on top of that).

That said, it is a gathering of 60+ workplaces (two squads, two management teams, two sets of committee members, however limited, maybe 3 officials). It is a chance for the virus to spread. People are not following protocols. I saw players last weekend breaking social distancing guidelines. I watched people hanging over the wall during Musselburgh v LTHV last night.

My avatar is John Bishop playing for Southport in 1990. Today's opponents have cancelled because of Covid in the team. It's the latest example of many down there. We have had various matches off up here and that will continue. Disruption, chaos, mayhem, stress - for what?

 

You are 100% correct. It is beyond my comprehension why anybody would put sport before the health of the nation

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1 hour ago, qwerty said:

What about the fans? Obviously the clubs that voted to start without the fans don't give a fk about their fans, 

 

Rubbish. The clubs have two options at the moment - start without fans, or don't start at all.

The fans are not affected either way.

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1 hour ago, gogsy said:

Where are they doubling everyday?

In Darvel which is a small village we have now got an outbreak which started on Wednesday and is growing daily and is now between 15-20 people, a lot of these guys would be following the team home and away, some are showing no symptoms.

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I cant see any club being penalized for a season out from the league this season from fans.

Questions though;
What happens to the players who are signed, are they still retained as I suppose its a year contract or would those clubs be duty bound to release them as players didn't sign p to it.

The clubs that withdraw for this season, I take it they will go into the fourth division of the WOSFL if there is promotion and relegation through this season and if there is no relegation, promotion, will it go back to another 3 conferences.  (suppose both questions can be hypothetical as it depends on the government suspend football again at a later stage

Has the SFA or the individual associations made anything public about coming with a  plan for all grounds to allow fans in or a certain number of fans

 

Personally

I believe there will be an outright winner of the tier 6 division but I cant see there being promotion, relegation from the other divisions, a quagmire to try and work out.

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