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I think it's time some folk started to realise we live in the real world and the Civid situation is worsening every day.

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2 hours ago, peasy23 said:
2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:
We'll see what the definition of professional is. In football you are either professional or amateur in registration status, so arguably everything except amateur and welfare is professional.

In Scottish football you are either covered by the professional or non professional game boards and that is what the SFA have used all the way through this to issue guidelines. Do you really expect them to change tack now?

The English FA abolished the distiction between professional and amateur players years ago on the basis that it no longer served any purpose.

Does it serve any purpose in Scotland half a century later? (Apart from filling a few more blazers).

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Being Junior would have stopped all of this! Like covid stopped the Junior leagues...


Gods work, clearly.

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This is what is reported on BBC Scotland. Pick the bones out this lot. Check the BBC Analysis too. Looks like an attempt at a Short Sharp Shock as the politicians everywhere don't wish to be associated with another Lockdown !

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54449573

All pubs and restaurants across central Scotland are to be closed under new measures aimed at tackling a surge in coronavirus cases.

The new rules will apply to licensed premises across the central belt, including Glasgow and Edinburgh.

Pubs and restaurants will be able to open in other parts of Scotland - but can only serve alcohol outdoors.

The new rules, which will be in force from 18:00 on Friday until 25 October, apply to about 3.4 million people.

They cover people living in the Greater Glasgow and Clyde, Lanarkshire, Forth Valley, Lothian and Ayrshire and Arran health board areas.

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said the restrictions were "intended to be short, sharp action to arrest a worrying increase in infection".

She warned that without taking action, the country risks "returning to the peak level of infection by the end of the month".

But she admitted that the new rules would be disruptive to many businesses and would be unwelcome to many people.

The Scottish Hospitality Group, which includes many of the the country's best known pubs and restaurants, accused the first minister of "effectively signing a death sentence" for many businesses.

And the Federation of Small Businesses said the move would have a major knock on impact across other parts of the economy, including tourism.

Opposition parties have called for more detail on a £40m support package for affected business that was announced by Ms Sturgeon, and have questioned the need for the blanket closure of pubs and restaurants.

In five central belt areas, all licensed premises - with the exception of hotels for residents - will be required to close indoors and outdoors, although takeaways will be permitted.

Cafes which do not have an alcohol licence will be able to stay open until 18:00.

Snooker and pool halls, indoor bowling alleys, casinos and bingo halls will also close in the five health board areas for two weeks from 10 October.

And contact sports for people aged 18 and over will be suspended for the next two weeks - with an exception for professional sports.

Indoor group exercise activities will not be allowed, although the current rules will remain in place for under 18s and gyms can remain open for individual exercise.

Outdoor live events will not be permitted in any of the five regions for the next fortnight.

There will be no travel ban in any of the areas, but people in the central belt have been urged to avoid public transport unless it is "absolutely necessary".

And they have also been advised not to travel outside of the health board area they live in if they do not need to.

 

BBC Analysis of situation:

Throughout the pandemic Scotland has tended to adopt a slightly more cautious approach than England.

It has imposed more restrictions and lifted them more slowly in general. The latest move is in line with that trend.

There is little difference in overall infection rates. Scotland has seen 85 cases per 100,000 in the past week, compared to England's 109.

The measures imposed by the Scottish government are focussed on areas with the highest infection rates.

But those places are some way below the levels seen in England's hotspots.

Cities such as Liverpool, Manchester and Newcastle have seen around 500 cases per 100,000 people over the past week - that is more than twice the level of infection in Glasgow for example.

But the differences between the two nations should not mask the growing concern there is in England about the infection rates, particularly in the north of country.

Senior ministers and their advisers are today discussing whether extra steps are needed south of the border.

The problem is action to supress the virus has negative consequences too.

This much can be seen in the growing number of scientists and health experts who are signing the Great Barrington Declaration warning about the impact of Covid lockdown policies.

 

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13 hours ago, Chis said:

I think it's time some folk started to realise we live in the real world and the Civid situation is worsening every day.

Here's the real world. If you try to shut down, the moment you start reopening the same thing will happen again, so this circuit breaker stuff delays or slows down the problem for a bit rather than solving it. At some point the politicians need to explain to people that there is no easy and painless way out of this, if there is no vaccine available. That means you either have to crash the economy and shutdown in a way that keeps people safe but potentially destitute while waiting for a vaccine that may never arrive, or you accept that a peak of infections will have to be allowed to unfold so herd immunity can be achieved.

Edited by LongTimeLurker

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47 minutes ago, Sunrise said:

The disinformation that was flying about clearly worked - the absolute worst thing about that is they're under the impression they're somehow in the Lowland League.

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Aren't these restrictions planned to cover next three weekends only? Pretty sure it was 16 days from Friday.
As a starting point. Does this not take her to her 3 weekly checkpoint on all things restricted?
Which means if things aren't looking any better, she might bump it on a few weeks more.

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Heard immunity is code for killing off the old, disabled and any poor barsteward with an underlying health issue.

Welcome to the Eugenics Movement.

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5 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said:

Heard immunity is code for killing off the old, disabled and any poor barsteward with an underlying health issue.

Welcome to the Eugenics Movement.

Herd immunity is also what happens if you have a vaccine, so zero to do with eugenics. All it means is enough people are immune that the virus can't spread any more and the epidemic is over. If you don't have herd immunity and you open up you will soon have a peak of infections. If you don't open up in the absence of a vaccine, the economy crashes and lots of people wind up on the dole. There are no easy painless answers on this. Shutting down WoS for a few weeks solves nothing in big picture terms.

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1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Here's the real world. If you try to shut down, the moment you start reopening the same thing will happen again, so this circuit breaker stuff delays or slows down the problem for a bit rather than solving it. At some point the politicians need to explain to people that there is no easy and painless way out of this, if there is no vaccine available. That means you either have to crash the economy and shutdown in a way to keeps people safe but potentially destitute while waiting for a vaccine that may never arrive, or you accept that a peak of infections will have to be allowed to unfold so herd immunity can be achieved.

The peak of infections is exactly what happened with the Spanish flu .It vanished after two years and has never returned. There was no vaccine  nature ran its course. 

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1 hour ago, Tutankhamen said:

Heard immunity is code for killing off the old, disabled and any poor barsteward with an underlying health issue.

Welcome to the Eugenics Movement.

Where did you hear that?

4 minutes ago, gogsy said:

STV news clearly haven't a clue either, just now they clearly said all amateur sports.

Wasn't that meaning the 5 a side type of gathering. The option should still be available for pyramid clubs to play. Whether they should or not is the hard bit.

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Seems like the adult gathering outdoors has taken on the mantle of  'real danger' in the governments eyes. Can't see even the spfl coming out of this unscathed, if I had my cynical hat on I'd find all sort of theories ! Being lucky enough to be able to watch some games down south, feel sorry for the non league fans up north - sure you could play with the crowd guidelines similar to England, with all the risk assessments carried out by clubs. Can't see me returning to Scotland before 2021 and can't be sure of that just yet 😠

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Absolutely nothing informed to the clubs so if the catch up acct has been fed info then questions will be asked. 

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21 minutes ago, Hossy87 said:

Absolutely nothing informed to the clubs so if the catch up acct has been fed info then questions will be asked. 

Clearly stated when asked - multiple times - that our sources were not from any of the leagues. 

So puts that one to bed. 

Edit - Also made it clear that it was not official. 

Edited by RampantFM

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2 hours ago, Sancho Panza said:

Best of luck to Darvel,Buffs,Maryhill  and who ever else joins in  playing meaningless stop start games in front of nobody.

i have to agree with you , games without fans means absolutely nothing 

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