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17 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said:

I went along to a local game yesterday and watched from outside the ground. About 30 other folk had the same idea as me. Ridiculous that if we’d stood another 6 foot away the club could have charged us to watch, yet they made nothing from the game. Most WoSFL league games can be watched  from outside so you’ll still get fans “attending” yet the clubs won’t get a penny. 

Daft enough to go and do this, never mind posting about it on a public forum.

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Just society I'm afraid, like when you see anti mask folk claiming 'i want my freedom: or 5,000 idiots outside Leeds and Liverpool (sad scousers) celebrating. If any of them catch it from being there, don't mention Hillsborough ever again. The clubs are going to try really hard to stick to the guidelines - they are doing it for US the fans, respect their decisions please ? 

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A few thoughts from my first game in six months....

I went to see Penrith vs Wst Allotment Celtic in the FA Cup preliminary round om Saturday. As is usual I was there early and went to their clubhouse to put a few pound behind the bar despite there being a good real ale pub about half a mile away. Was surprised on entering to see the television on with the sound full blast, competing with the tannoy outside playing music pre match. Have to assume that's the English way of doing things in such circumstances at the moment (perhaps Andy groundhopper could confirm please?)

You had to sign in to enter the ground, and plenty of hand sanitiser available. No food available, but you could buy cups of coffee. The logic defeats me, because if it's about trying to stop contagion, you'll catch Covid from a coffee cup just like you would a pie? Nobody formally stewarding any social distancing inside the ground, and I reckon about 80% of the 167 crowd were respecting the guidelines, but there some noticeable groups of blokes huddled closely together who obviously weren't interested, full stop.

A good number of Scottish fans there, and I was sat next to a couple of Hibees before moving due some arse conitinuing to ignore social distancing guidelines around me. Had to do this three more times. I really worry if that is the lax attitude with a small crowd, what will it be like when we get back to watching our game in the WoSL, with some of the expected larger gates?

Anyway, a sucker for punishment, going to see Carlisle City play tomorrow night at the old Celtic Nation FC ground in Carlisle, and probably there as well on Saturday when they have semi decent opposition vs Nelson.

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7 minutes ago, TFW said:

No food available, but you could buy cups of coffee. The logic defeats me, because if it's about trying to stop contagion, you'll catch Covid from a coffee cup just like you would a pie?

Stocking food that might not be sold or is more perishable with short notice cancellations is probably more costly. There might also be more guidelines to meet over food.

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10 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

There's nothing so far from the SG to suggest that the season definitely won't be given the green light on Oct 5th, so for now things are in wait and see mode. If the new cases trend plateaus and then starts to dip again and the number of deaths is still flatlining then all should be OK.

This is the latest update from WoSFL

Member Clubs

The indicative start date for the new season was scheduled for Saturday 10th October. This however can not be confirmed as a Scottish Government review is due on Thursday 1st October. This review will affect our ability to commence with the new season, with any changes identified coming into force from Monday 5th October. Therefore the IMG are recommending that the indicative date for the start of the new league season be put back by 3 weeks, in line with the timescale of policy reviews by the Scottish Government, to Saturday 31st October. This however MAY change depending on the impact any future announcements from the Scottish Government would have on clubs ability to start the season.

This is only a small percentage of the email but it gives some info on start or non start details

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At what point now do we say games a bogey?  And what happens to the teams that were drawn in the first round of the south of Scotland cup scheduled for the 24th October?   It’s getting less likely we are going  to be able to complete the proposed shortened season. 

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Just now, beithboy said:

At what point now do we say games a bogey?  And what happens to the teams that were drawn in the first round of the south of Scotland cup scheduled for the 24th October?   It’s getting less likely we are going  to be able to complete the proposed shortened season. 

You'd imagine if the LL also have to rerevaluate due to SG dictat, then the dates move as they were not set in stone.

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The full post that Glenafton shared (not seen it anywhere else)

Dear Supporters

This is a particularly difficult time for clubs and the League alike with all the uncertainty surrounding the COVID-19 pandemic and the effect this will have on clubs and the forthcoming football season. The Interim Management Group (IMG) have listened to those clubs who have provided feedback surrounding their many and varied concerns regarding the start of the new season, concerns which we too share.

I’m sure you will appreciate that trying to plan for a full season in these everchanging circumstances has its’ challenges and as a result the IMG have been looking at a number of options available to it, whilst at the same time trying to interpret the various scenarios that may or may not arise.

The indicative start date for the new season was scheduled for Saturday 10th October. This however can not be confirmed as a Scottish Government review is due on Thursday 1st October. This review will affect our ability to commence with the new season, with any changes identified coming into force from Monday 5th October. Therefore the IMG are recommending that the indicative date for the start of the new league season be put back by 3 weeks, in line with the timescale of policy reviews by the Scottish Government, to Saturday 31st October. This however MAY change depending on the impact any future announcements from the Scottish Government would have on clubs ability to start the season.

The IMG will also be sending out a Survey Monkey questionnaire to ALL clubs by the end of this weeks to ascertain clubs’ views on various key points about starting the new campaign and your response will help to shape the thoughts of the IMG in our future deliberations. I would ask that once this survey is received, that clubs complete and return the survey within 7 days, sooner if possible, to allow the IMG time to make a considered response and plan the way forward.

This is a difficult time for all and I thank you for the patience that you have shown as we strive to return to playing football in an environment that is both safe and viable to do so.

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It’s getting close that a decision needs to be made to stick or twist. Nobody knows what way it’s going to go my club have already committed to a pitch maintenance programme and also bought new kit etc and with work being done it’s close on 8 grand. We can’t keep forking out with no light at the end of the tunnel. Some clubs will be better off and have budgets that can cover this but also chapping sponsors doors and you can’t get them to commit to the unknown some have been ok others are let’s wait and see . As hard as it is for everybody I think everybody needs to get round the table and decide one way or another. Some of the more financially backed might not be happy but we are now 6 month down the line from the new era and through no fault of the new league set up office bearers we are still playing a waiting game. 

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Rudderless ship nobody willing to make a proper decisive decision when anyone with half a brain can see the way this is going. 

Protect clubs,  bin this season let clubs who want to continue training and playing friendlies with players who are willing to play for nothing to tick over and thats it.

Isn't rocket science. 

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28 minutes ago, rncaa said:

Rudderless ship nobody willing to make a proper decisive decision when anyone with half a brain can see the way this is going. 

Protect clubs,  bin this season let clubs who want to continue training and playing friendlies with players who are willing to play for nothing to tick over and thats it.

Isn't rocket science. 

Yeah sure the players will do that if no season contracts null and void better players will go elsewhere and play if they can step up which plenty could and then teams without money behind them will be no more 

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18 minutes ago, Sancho Panza said:

The games a bogey.

See you all next season.

Seems to be a general theme of desperation to “call the season”. 
 

The world has changed, and for anything to run safety and effectively it has to change too. 
 

It requires someone with a bit of nouse to move this forward.

I for one are desperate to get the game back, yes there is going to be changes. Yes it’s not going to be “the way it was” and yes some things are going to be more difficult but surely in the hierarchy of the league someone can get it going again! 

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The bottom line is key: no money at the gate = no income to pay players.
You also have the problem of convincing sponsors to part with their cash when there is nobody there to see their adverts in programmes or banners on the fence.

Also worth pointing out it's not just the gate money that would be missed, no raffles or programme sales would be a big dent in finances too.
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