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4 hours ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said:

Anyone know anything about the standards of changing facilities at these grounds? (both teams and officials)

There's a huge variance in standards across the West of Scotland clubs (plenty have barely any space for three officials, never mind social distancing) whilst others are much better suited to cope with changes.

I've seen the suggestion of driving to games and straight onto the pitch, but I just don't see that as a practical solution - 2 hour+ round trips, no doubt soaked through/muddy/freezing on the return...  I haven't seen any proposed guidance from the SFA or SPFL on any of those issues yet?

The FA has issued guidelines, but not read them  100% yet. Heard of away teams having both changing rooms, home team using the clubhouse etc. Will check clubs websites later to find out. Seems they're more concerned about getting fans back in, and making some money.The South West Peninsula League is ready to go, with fixtures galore, clubs have provided  assessments apparently.

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5 hours ago, Andy groundhopper said:

The FA has issued guidelines, but not read them  100% yet. Heard of away teams having both changing rooms, home team using the clubhouse etc. Will check clubs websites later to find out. Seems they're more concerned about getting fans back in, and making some money.The South West Peninsula League is ready to go, with fixtures galore, clubs have provided  assessments apparently.

Good to know.  Thanks.

I wonder with the change to the SPFL pyramid regulations, whether that has made things easier for some clubs to comply with the likely changes, or whether it’s just further difficulty.  I guess we’ll see what happens shortly. 

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The virus isn't going away guys. So we get football back soon with the relevant measures in place and learn to live with the virus.
The alternative is our game dies. It's really that simple.


Not disputing any of what you have said other than clubs could suffer a financial hit anyway as most supports are of the older (more vulnerable) age group who may stay away and I fear we may loose some clubs no matter what.

I do agree that if clubs can reopen using the measure set out by the SFA/SG then they should but I do wonder how many clubs will be able to meet it after speaking to someone at my club.
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Not disputing any of what you have said other than clubs could suffer a financial hit anyway as most supports are of the older (more vulnerable) age group who may stay away and I fear we may loose some clubs no matter what.

I do agree that if clubs can reopen using the measure set out by the SFA/SG then they should but I do wonder how many clubs will be able to meet it after speaking to someone at my club.
How do you or they know ? The Scottish Government and the SFA haven't issued any instructions or guidelines on what needs done to re-open stadiums at our level yet.
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20 hours ago, Steven W said:

I don't who you are, but you're coming across as a bit of a bell end. Probably a nice person in real life though

Anyway, rather than let the thread be steered off at a tangent, I'll call it quits at that. Have a good day👍

I mean, you have him 100% banged to rights about being a bellend but his overarching point is valid. 

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3 hours ago, glensmad said:
4 hours ago, Arthurlie1981 said:


Not disputing any of what you have said other than clubs could suffer a financial hit anyway as most supports are of the older (more vulnerable) age group who may stay away and I fear we may loose some clubs no matter what.

I do agree that if clubs can reopen using the measure set out by the SFA/SG then they should but I do wonder how many clubs will be able to meet it after speaking to someone at my club.

How do you or they know ? The Scottish Government and the SFA haven't issued any instructions or guidelines on what needs done to re-open stadiums at our level yet.

There a huge disparity between the standard of facilities across the West Region.  Frankly, the facilities at a number of grounds, particularly for officials was unacceptable before, never mind under the SPFL pyramid and COVID-19 regulations (which I grant we don’t yet know).

(Thinking of Kilwinning and Yoker until recently, never mind the likes of Largs...)

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1 hour ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said:

There a huge disparity between the standard of facilities across the West Region.  Frankly, the facilities at a number of grounds, particularly for officials was unacceptable before, never mind under the SPFL pyramid and COVID-19 regulations (which I grant we don’t yet know).

(Thinking of Kilwinning and Yoker until recently, never mind the likes of Largs...)

Yoker’s facilities are almost on a par with Clydebank’s now.

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How do you or they know ? The Scottish Government and the SFA haven't issued any instructions or guidelines on what needs done to re-open stadiums at our level yet.

 

Well, I believe some things have been discussed around changing rooms and temperature checks being carried out but there will obviously be more than that.

 

My point is that if there are restrictions on numbers in changing rooms and more space being required then some clubs might struggle knowing the size of some changing rooms. If it turns that facilities aren’t an issue then that is a major hurdle to restarting.

 

I listened to David McCraken (Falkirk co-manager) being interviewed last night and he was saying that they had to hold their team meetings while sitting in the stand and not in the changing rooms.

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53 minutes ago, Arthurlie1981 said:

 


Well, I believe some things have been some discussion around changing rooms and temperature checks being carried out but there will obviously be more than that.

My point is that if there are restrictions on numbers in changing rooms and more space being required then some clubs might struggle knowing the size of some changing rooms. If it turns that facilities aren’t an issue then that is a major hurdle to restarting.

I listened to David McCraken (Falkirk co-manager) being interviewed last night and he was saying that they had to hold their team meetings while sitting in the stand and not in the changing rooms.

 

Having been in the Falkirk Stadium's dressing rooms  I would reckon they are significantly bigger than those at most, if not all, West of Scotland League club grounds.

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1 hour ago, TheLad said:

I would bet that, for any pre season games at least, there will be no use of changing facilities for games at this level.
Players will have to turn up ready, no showers after etc.
Arrive, play, go home.

How does that work if it's pissing of rain on a coo field? Just jump back in the car bogging and drive up the road? 

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So no fans for test event this week at celtic,  cases will rise and we will still get deaths now and again which will result in no non league football before january as fans at non league level simply wont be allowed in its almost september after all. 

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4 hours ago, TheLad said:

I would bet that, for any pre season games at least, there will be no use of changing facilities for games at this level.
Players will have to turn up ready, no showers after etc.
Arrive, play, go home.

Can we stop treating this as if they are kids going to a training session on a Wednesday night?  Either the facilities will need to be offered, and the guidelines adhered to, or the guidelines will need to be adjusted due to the fact that the facilities won’t support it.

Or, football below the Lowland League just might not happen in October.  

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On 25/08/2020 at 13:13, HuttonDressedAsLahm said:

There a huge disparity between the standard of facilities across the West Region.  Frankly, the facilities at a number of grounds, particularly for officials was unacceptable before, never mind under the SPFL pyramid and COVID-19 regulations (which I grant we don’t yet know).

(Thinking of Kilwinning and Yoker until recently, never mind the likes of Largs...)

The facilities at yoker and Iargs are particularly bad for social distancing and laughable not in a good way. 

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31 minutes ago, glazer said:

So no fans for test event this week at celtic,  cases will rise and we will still get deaths now and again which will result in no non league football before january as fans at non league level simply wont be allowed in its almost september after all. 

West Juniors are still dead.

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