Dev Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Rabbit out of Hat. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/scottish-fa-statement-on-new-government-guidelines/?rid=13929 Thursday 8 October 2020 Following the latest update from Scottish Government on Thursday, 7 October, the Scottish FA can today confirm the impact on Scottish football as a result of government guidance. OVER 18s ALL football activity for those aged 18 and over is not permitted in the following areas: Ayrshire & Arran Health Board, comprising East, North, and South Ayrshire; Forth Valley Health Board, comprising Clackmannanshire, Falkirk, and Stirling; Greater Glasgow & Clyde Health Board, comprising Glasgow City, East Dunbartonshire, East Renfrewshire, Inverclyde, Renfrewshire, and West Dunbartonshire; Lanarkshire Health Board, comprising North and South Lanarkshire; and Lothian Health Board, comprising the City of Edinburgh, East Lothian, Midlothian, and West Lothian. Scottish Government travel guidance is that individuals who live in a high risk local health board area should not travel outside their health board area. This guidance applies for players travelling for training or matches. Clubs NOT located within the five high risk local health board areas noted above can continue to train and play in line with the current Phase 3 Route Map Guidance. However, matches cannot be organised with any clubs located within the five high risk local Health Board areas. Exemptions for over-18s are outlined below. EXEMPTIONS Please note, Scottish Government have advised of an exemption for professional sport. This covers teams who take part in the following competitions - Scottish Professional Football League, Highland League, Lowland League, SWF PL 1 & 2, West of Scotland Leagues, East of Scotland Leagues, South of Scotland League, North Caledonian League and SJFA Leagues. These competitions can continue in line with relevant guidance and protocols. This exemption also covers Scotland National Team fixtures at Men’s A, SWNT and Under-21 level. UNDER 18s Teams, with players aged 17 and under, located within the five high risk local Health Board areas can only take part in training or matches within the same local health board area. Players who live within a high risk local health board area should not travel out with that local health board area for training or matches as per Scottish Government guidance. Teams, with players aged 17 and under, located in any non-high risk local Health Board areas can organise training or matches within any other non-high risk local health board area. Players who live within a non-high risk local health board area can travel into other non-high risk local health board areas for training or matches. Players who live within a non-high risk local health board area should not travel into a high risk local health board area for training or matches. These restrictions are in place from Saturday 10 October and will remain in place until midnight on Sunday 25 October at the earliest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Feet Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Why should West of Scotland Teams be handed exemptions? I would understand it if they were also being tested like they are in the SPFL. But reading this, how is it ok for West of Scotland Teams in high risk areas to play but amateur teams can't? Another note to add to the list of never ending rules and regulations that don't make sense. An utter shambles from top to bottom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 On 07/10/2020 at 16:11, Lobby Dossar said: Stop talking pish I await your apology. What I stated in the post you responded to was factual and turns out to be what has guided the definition of "professional" in all of this: https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/scottish-fa-statement-on-new-government-guidelines/?rid=13929 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Well done to SFA for widening their view on this beyond Professional / Non Professional board. Not sure it's quite in spirit of what NS intended though! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: Well done to SFA for widening their view on this beyond Professional / Non Professional board. Not sure it's quite in spirit of what NS intended though! Definitely would explain the long delay on clarification (WTF dae ye mean this applies tae Lugar Boswell Thistle! etc etc), but they would not have had a leg to stand on legally if any club decided to make an issue out of it given the players in all the leagues listed are able to sign the same professional registration forms with the SFA that Rangers and Celtic players use. Edited October 8, 2020 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, Crazy Feet said: Why should West of Scotland Teams be handed exemptions? I would understand it if they were also being tested like they are in the SPFL. But reading this, how is it ok for West of Scotland Teams in high risk areas to play but amateur teams can't? Another note to add to the list of never ending rules and regulations that don't make sense. An utter shambles from top to bottom. Because there's the exception made for Professional Sport. Presumably because the work stoppage would lead to breach of contracts or enforced financial losses with no financial aid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 The SFA have also put up a FAQ to go with their statement. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/government-update-faqs/?rid=13929 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Feet Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Because there's the exception made for Professional Sport. Presumably because the work stoppage would lead to breach of contracts or enforced financial losses with no financial aid. Players aren't being paid at the moment, so that blows that theory out of the window. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToffeeTalbot Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, Crazy Feet said: Players aren't being paid at the moment, so that blows that theory out of the window. Hard to disagree with the argument that our levels aren’t professional, same contacts, think SFA got that one correct. Do wonder what say Tier 7 is doing any different to SYFA u21s or SAFA level to allow games to be played 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Crazy Feet said: Players aren't being paid at the moment, so that blows that theory out of the window. If you can prove that's the case for everyone across all those leagues on you go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Let's say that IF players get their MAIN income from playing football rather than working etc, then consider them professional, but give all the others a fighting chance. Not being privy to such details but are the Scottish politicians anti football at all ? The virus came, and the virus will go sometime, are they waiting for that point in time ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I guess the WoSFL debate now turns to starting on the 24th or not. Going by their twitter account Forth Wanderers might be another club that voted for the 24th as a start date. Also looks like the use of changing rooms are opening up a little. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Glass ceiling said: If teams are allowed to choose non participation (because of thier own circumstances) then there cannot be relegation so therefore no promotion My understanding is that the Lowland league have offered team to step down for season without "punishment" Anyway even if there was a promotion spot from the "premier" - why would it be zcceptable for promtion to be available in only one of the four West of Scotland Leagues - you think that is fair? The Lowland League rules have been changed for this season to allow 18 clubs next season if the board decides, and unless the season is cancelled then it's almost certain that one club will gain promotion given most of the EOS tier 6 clubs have licences. But promotion between the Premier Division and the Conferences is a matter for the WOSFL to decide on, whereas promotion from the Lowland is an agreement with the LL/EOS/SOS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 16 hours ago, Crazy Feet said: Why should West of Scotland Teams be handed exemptions? I would understand it if they were also being tested like they are in the SPFL. But reading this, how is it ok for West of Scotland Teams in high risk areas to play but amateur teams can't? Another note to add to the list of never ending rules and regulations that don't make sense. An utter shambles from top to bottom. Because they're trying to restrict as few things as possible to bring the level of transmission down to something manageable. Between seniors and juniors there are what, about 230 matches each weekend? So they ban all other football and let that continue (for now). Would you be happier if they just banned all sport? Calls for "consistency" are missing the entire point of what they're explaining every lunchtime. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytwotapes Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 16 hours ago, Crazy Feet said: Players aren't being paid at the moment, so that blows that theory out of the window. Do you know that for a fact I know of some teams paying players 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 League managed to negotiate ok to pass teams changing rooms. No showers. Boys all bouncing at training. Means so much to them specially older players and some of the young ones. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, GordonS said: ...So they ban all other football and let that continue (for now).... They actually haven't if you read the SFA press release. U-18 level still likely to be OK for the most part and over 18 still OK outside the central belt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Development teams now told to not play, contrary to yesterday's announcement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: Development teams now told to not play, contrary to yesterday's announcement. The Lowland Development League wasn't covered in the list of exemptions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: Development teams now told to not play, contrary to yesterday's announcement. If you are talking about Lowland Development that doesn't contradict the original announcement because the players involved are mainly 18 and over and are not playing in one of the professional competitions listed as an exemption. Think people simply misinterpreted the initial press release. Edited October 9, 2020 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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