Restart

[Tutankhamen]

1 hour ago, Stag Nation said:

Why? The SFA have absolutely no jurisdiction over Hull.

f**k the SFA

[Meadowman]

1 hour ago, Stag Nation said:

Why? The SFA have absolutely no jurisdiction over Hull.

That’s not the point,why are they training in Scotland,our lower league teams are banned from training just now 

[glensmad]

That’s not the point,why are they training in Scotland,our lower league teams are banned from training just now 

But Hull City are not banned.

[Ormi]

51 minutes ago, glensmad said:

1 hour ago, Meadowman said:

That’s not the point,why are they training in Scotland,our lower league teams are banned from training just now 

But Hull City are not banned.

Surely they can find somewhere in the whole of England to train though? What’s the reason to train in Edinburgh?

[Cyclizine]

40 minutes ago, Ormi said:

Surely they can find somewhere in the whole of England to train though? What’s the reason to train in Edinburgh?

International training camp

[glensmad]

Surely they can find somewhere in the whole of England to train though? What’s the reason to train in Edinburgh?

They didn't deliberately choose Edinburgh just to thumb their noses at the lower league teams in Scotland. [emoji1751] These things are booked months in advance.

[morley]

4 hours ago, Stag Nation said:

Why? The SFA have absolutely no jurisdiction over Hull.

This Hull thing is odd. While ofcourse the SFA have no jurisdiction over the club, the Scottish government controls are on team sport and not a specific organisation like the SFA. The SFA are just enforcing those government rules on its members. So yes the SFA are not responsible for Hull but the same government rules surely still apply as Hull are in Scotland and therefore must follow those same scottish government rules on team sport when in country. Arguably the English FA are responsible for one of its members not following government rules regardless of that being in another country. Imagine a Scottish club was training abroad and breaking that countries rules then the SFA would be all over that club for it regardless of it being in a different country. Plus the Oriam is directly funded by the Scottish Government/Sport Scotland. Can imagine the Oriam are having their knuckles wrapped by the Scottish Government for allowing them to be here.

Edited August 15, 2020 by morley

[Sergeant Wilson]

6 minutes ago, morley said:

This Hull thing is odd. While ofcourse the SFA have no jurisdiction over the club, the Scottish government controls are on team sport and not a specific organisation like the SFA. So yes the SFA are not responsible for Hull but the rules surely still apply as Hull are in Scotland and therefore must follow the scottish government rules on team sport when in country. Plus the Oriam is directly funded by the Scottish Government/Sport Scotland. Can imagine the Oriam are having their knuckles wrapped by the Scottish Government for allowing them to be here.

Oriam; You can't come in.

Hull: Here's a big pile of money.

Oriam: This way sir.

[Melanius Mullarkey]

Do Hairy Twat own the Oriam thing?

 

[morley]

3 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

Do Hairy Twat own the Oriam thing?

 

From their website appears its jointly funded by HW, Scottish Government, and Sport Scotland. Funded i appreciate isnt the same as owned.

Edited August 15, 2020 by morley

[glensmad]

The training ban is not a Scottish Government instruction. It is an SFA instruction.

[Big Boab Jnr]

36 minutes ago, glensmad said:

The training ban is not a Scottish Government instruction. It is an SFA instruction.

Surely even the SFA must see the ridiculousness of this situation. A team from a country with a much higher R number than our own allowed to train here when most of our clubs have been banned. In a perverse way this may help aid our return to training and football. IMO we need to find solutions to any problems and obstacles in our way to lead as normal a life as possible and i see no insurmountable reasons that would stop the return of football in this country. Sport and fitness offer huge benefits both physically and mentally and for this it should be escalated to a higher priority rather than other industries which opened up purely for financial gain.

[Lobby Dossar]

8 minutes ago, Big Boab Jnr said:

Surely even the SFA must see the ridiculousness of this situation. A team from a country with a much higher R number than our own allowed to train here when most of our clubs have been banned. In a perverse way this may help aid our return to training and football. IMO we need to find solutions to any problems and obstacles in our way to lead as normal a life as possible and i see no insurmountable reasons that would stop the return of football in this country. Sport and fitness offer huge benefits both physically and mentally and for this it should be escalated to a higher priority rather than other industries which opened up purely for financial gain.

Below is prt of the problem for our grade to restart … and until it is addressed we won’t be getting a start date 
 

In addition, the Stenhousemuir chairman is dismayed that the football authorities have not, in his opinion, addressed how part-time players can operate in a Covid-safe "bubble".

"Living in a bubble isn't going to be there for part-time clubs," McMenemy said. "If you're a tradesman you could be in six or seven households a day. 

"We've been asking the JRG to come up with a protocol that recognises that but they have failed to bring anything to us. We come under the same conditions as Premiership clubs and that's not possible."

[Big Boab Jnr]

23 minutes ago, Lobby Dossar said:

Below is prt of the problem for our grade to restart … and until it is addressed we won’t be getting a start date 
 

In addition, the Stenhousemuir chairman is dismayed that the football authorities have not, in his opinion, addressed how part-time players can operate in a Covid-safe "bubble".

"Living in a bubble isn't going to be there for part-time clubs," McMenemy said. "If you're a tradesman you could be in six or seven households a day. 

"We've been asking the JRG to come up with a protocol that recognises that but they have failed to bring anything to us. We come under the same conditions as Premiership clubs and that's not possible."

Unfortunately theres no such thing as a covid safe bubble. people in all walks of life now need to manage their lifestyle and find a way to be as practicably safe as possible without impacting their lives to the extent they cannot live a reasonable existence. Again i say we should be positive and look for solutions rather than have a negative attitude and constantly coming up with negatives. 

[Lobby Dossar]

11 minutes ago, Big Boab Jnr said:

Unfortunately theres no such thing as a covid safe bubble. people in all walks of life now need to manage their lifestyle and find a way to be as practicably safe as possible without impacting their lives to the extent they cannot live a reasonable existence. Again i say we should be positive and look for solutions rather than have a negative attitude and constantly coming up with negatives. 

Unfortunately don’t think what we come up with will matter … everything is going through JRG and there is not a lot of leeway coming from them about relaxing regulations

Don't confuse negative attitude with reality 

[LongTimeLurker]

12 hours ago, Talbot supporter said:

Folk talking about vaccines, I am nae scientist but does a vaccine not usually take around 5 years to get it right before release?

Yes, but procedues on clinical trials are likely to get sped up in a big way with COVID-19. Still too much naive optimism that a vaccine is a sure thing though and will be available before herd immunity is reached. Should be viewed as a bonus if it happens rather than a certainty to base public policy around but politicians don't like to tell the punters that they have no solution and that a lot of them are probably going to die in the process of reaching herd immunity. You can wind up being as popular as Alexander Lukashenko is in Belarus at the moment if you take a vodka and sauna approach.

[Big Boab Jnr]

51 minutes ago, Lobby Dossar said:

Unfortunately don’t think what we come up with will matter … everything is going through JRG and there is not a lot of leeway coming from them about relaxing regulations

Don't confuse negative attitude with reality 

Reality is this virus has to be managed and whether you like it or not shutting everything down is no longer financially viable hence work places, pubs and shops etc are open with risk management in place. None of this is 100% safe but we cannot shut down and hide for ever nor can we wait for a vaccine to maybe come to our rescue. Risk assess, put measures in place and minimise any adverse effects. Nothing that has been put up on here as reasons not to start back cant be managed to a minimal risk level.

[Andy groundhopper]

The harsh reality is that the English and Scottish governments do NOT trust football clubs and fans at all. Whether it's safe or not, economy v deaths, and a desperate need to get their furlough money back asap. IF we have to be 100% safe for the game to return, then I can't see that happening anytime soon. As they say ,'wear a mask' but sadly too many are defiant, wanting ',freedom' whatever the F that means

[Sergeant Wilson]

Not all clubs could take part, but if they have pubs or clubs in or adjacent, are they allowed to open? I'm thinking of Cumbernauld or Cambuslang who have beer gardens. What's to stop them opening the bar when an officially closed door game is taking place in the background?

[cmontheloknow]

1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

Not all clubs could take part, but if they have pubs or clubs in or adjacent, are they allowed to open? I'm thinking of Cumbernauld or Cambuslang who have beer gardens. What's to stop them opening the bar when an officially closed door game is taking place in the background?

Can you take booze outside on matchday usually? I don't recall pints on the terrace last time I was at GM (2 seasons back?).