Tutankhamen Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said: And success for Aberdeen and Dundee United in Scotland and in Europe as the OF fans forgot about loyalty. Bring those days back. Aberdeen league champions 1980 19841985 Dundee Utd league champions1983 We shall remember Edited June 28, 2020 by Tutankhamen Eff the SFA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I long for the days of home/away. Can’t understand why we often have two home then two away now. Doesn’t seem any logical reason It is literally impossible for every club to have alternate home and away fixtures.Let's take the simple example of a 4 team league.Week 1: A v B, C v DWeek 2: B v C, D v AThen, in Week 3 clearly A should play C and B should play D. However, both A and B had an away game the previous week, so one of them will have to play away again. Likewise for B and D, one will have to play at home twice in a row. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 On 28/06/2020 at 10:15, theoriginalhedge said: Struggling with your point here. Most SPFL member clubs have been in existence for 50- 100 years or more and have survived with or without TV money and fluctuating league money. They learn to live within the resources available to them. ( obviously there are a few exceptions who constantly spend money they don't have in the vain hope of tainted success ) Why should part time clubs be denied the chance to progress to full time should the chance arise ? That totally flies in the face of Kelty's accusations of denying "progressive and ambitious clubs " like them. Some Premier clubs struggle to get 2500 crowds. Just saying . Just trying to find a solution to problems ahead, clubs obviously need TV money etc - are worried about getting relegated into the LL or HL with the lack of income that it brings. Was trying to find a way for part-time clubs to compete better, or are clubs like Stenny,Albion etc very happy to stay where they are ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 14 hours ago, Tutankhamen said: Don't know if you remember the early 1980s but Scottish football outside of about 6 top clubs was reduced to part time clubs because of a collapse in crowds. Yeah remember those days,and in reality the crowds haven't come back. Just trying to find a way to get clubs to survive and compete better v clubs on a similar footing, rather than out of their depth sometimes, and an annual battle against relegation. Am pre guessing how the spfl may look in the future, with clubs wanting to hibernate etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 13 hours ago, craigkillie said: It is literally impossible for every club to have alternate home and away fixtures. Let's take the simple example of a 4 team league. Week 1: A v B, C v D Week 2: B v C, D v A Then, in Week 3 clearly A should play C and B should play D. However, both A and B had an away game the previous week, so one of them will have to play away again. Likewise for B and D, one will have to play at home twice in a row. I know it is impossible for it to be completely home/away but in general it could be and every so often you would have two at home or two away. It may be that the smaller divisions exacerbates it in comparison to my rose tinted spectacled view of the old days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Andy groundhopper said: Just trying to find a solution to problems ahead, clubs obviously need TV money etc - are worried about getting relegated into the LL or HL with the lack of income that it brings. Was trying to find a way for part-time clubs to compete better, or are clubs like Stenny,Albion etc very happy to stay where they are ? The smaller clubs often have their high points . Stenny and Albion Rovers as you quote have both gone up and down the leagues and can't really be criticised for their lack of ambition. My club are currently in the doldrums after spending the best part of 40 years competing at a higher level. Montrose are currently doing well both on and off the park after spending a long time in the lower reaches and dicing with the trapdoor. Basically football is cyclic. Yes every club in league two has the fear of relegation and sometimes it is not till they are faced with it as club 42 that they realise that they need to be less complacent and maybe change the way they are run. It is getting tougher for part time teams no doubt about it but clubs have to adapt to a much more competitive and professional environment. Most are doing just that by upgrading hospitality facilities, tapping into corporate sponsorship and offering business shares in the clubs along with club lotteries , fundraisers and community input . The ones unwilling to change will be the ones who will fall by the wayside. Relying on league money alone is not an option. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick1867 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 On 27/06/2020 at 16:13, Charliechurch said: What are QP doing with their £50K? Community projects or Ray McKinnon’s transfer fund? Easy for Hampden Diehard to criticise Kilmarnock and others (but never his pals down the Louden ), but are QP really in the position to be casting aspersions with Willie Haughey (a former Celtic director) bankrolling them? So HD's opinion = QP's opinion? Wattie Arnott was much better at this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mick1867 said: So HD's opinion = QP's opinion? Wattie Arnott was much better at this. We'll be having a £50k sesh for the fans once the club bar opens. All the pakora you can eat as well. You heard it here first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy of the rovers Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 It's been confirmed that league 1, like the championship will commence the new season on 17th October with sides facing eachother 3 times. It's been reported that league 2 clubs are still in talks. Surely they have to follow suit? If not the SPFL do have the option to combine leagues 1 & 2 but I think that's only in the event some teams with to mothball for a season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayhole Blue Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 It's been confirmed that league 1, like the championship will commence the new season on 17th October with sides facing eachother 3 times. It's been reported that league 2 clubs are still in talks. Surely they have to follow suit? If not the SPFL do have the option to combine leagues 1 & 2 but I think that's only in the event some teams with to mothball for a season.Who or what is the hold up in League 2? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Phoenix Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Outcome not due until tomorrow- running a day behind SPFL1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 It's been confirmed that league 1, like the championship will commence the new season on 17th October with sides facing eachother 3 times. It's been reported that league 2 clubs are still in talks. Surely they have to follow suit? If not the SPFL do have the option to combine leagues 1 & 2 but I think that's only in the event some teams with to mothball for a season.Surely now that League 1 have voted for and confirmed a 27 game schedule, it is no longer an option to have an expanded League 1?I'd say the only issues remaining for League 2 are exactly when they start and whether all 10 teams are willing to participate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthespider Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 If any teams are not in a position to participate in league 2 bring in lowland league/highland league teams . We have got to start in October. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I would agree. All have to start, or none start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 At least we have a potential start date, (after furlough ? ) any more news on any div2 clubs wantng to have a season off ? all depends on whether fans are allowed in to provide income I imagine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Andy groundhopper said: At least we have a potential start date, (after furlough ? ) any more news on any div2 clubs wantng to have a season off ? all depends on whether fans are allowed in to provide income I imagine. Brechin had last season off so they should be good to go . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayhole Blue Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Surely now that League 1 have voted for and confirmed a 27 game schedule, it is no longer an option to have an expanded League 1?I'd say the only issues remaining for League 2 are exactly when they start and whether all 10 teams are willing to participate.If they’re not willing there are teams in Lowland and Highland who would happily step up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMartinBlack9 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Do you guys still think football with crowds will be coming back in October? I read this yesterday which seems to cast some doubt on it. Really hope this isn’t the case though - I’m a Brora fan & the Highland League haven’t got a set date yet, but with any luck it’ll be October as well. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-government-collision-course-nicola-22293031 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy of the rovers Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 League Two clubs have today voted to approve a 27-game fixture calendar for the 2020/21 season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onecowden Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 League Two clubs have today voted to approve a 27-game fixture calendar for the 2020/21 season.Not really surprised by this. Not sure why it wasn’t decided at the same time as league 1 though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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