JagsCG Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 hours ago, EdinburghBlue said: An interdict would be the best way to force change, but I can see that it makes tactical sense to hold this in reserve, for possible deployment in the week before the first fixtures are due. An interdict would be ridiculous for everyone. There’s trying to get compensation, and then there’s trying to completely destroy the league, in my opinion, the latter would be wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghBlue Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 An interdict would be ridiculous for everyone. There’s trying to get compensation, and then there’s trying to completely destroy the league, in my opinion, the latter would be wrong. And what the SPFL has done is ridiculous. So if an interdict is what’s needed to get to a sensible outcome then so be it. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, JagsCG said: An interdict would be ridiculous for everyone. There’s trying to get compensation, and then there’s trying to completely destroy the league, in my opinion, the latter would be wrong. I doubt it'll do much damage to us in league one as we wont be starting till october at the earliest and the prize money is shit anyway. If the case wins would the spfl have to compensate stranraer too or would they have to take up their own case which they might just do if they knew they were going to win? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartcraig Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said: And what the SPFL has done is ridiculous. So if an interdict is what’s needed to get to a sensible outcome then so be it. What bit or bits? And what does a sensible outcome look like? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, EdinburghBlue said: And what the SPFL has done is ridiculous. So if an interdict is what’s needed to get to a sensible outcome then so be it. Stuck to the outcome of a vote by its member clubs? How is that ridiculous? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghBlue Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 What bit or bits? And what does a sensible outcome look like?14-10-10-10 or null and void. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM. Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said: 14-10-10-10 or null and void. Awarding promotions but not relegations doesn't seem sensible to me, certainly in 14 10 10 10 where not only the Champions go up but also 2nd. 2nd placed teams going up but bottom placed teams not going down? Null and void would be no use for clubs like mine or yours who would've been relying on prize money being dished out. Come to think of it, has any league in the world null and voided their season as opposed to postponing and restarting or ending it the way it was? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, C. Muir said: Awarding promotions but not relegations doesn't seem sensible to me, certainly in 14 10 10 10 where not only the Champions go up but also 2nd. 2nd placed teams going up but bottom placed teams not going down? Null and void would be no use for clubs like mine or yours who would've been relying on prize money being dished out. Come to think of it, has any league in the world null and voided their season as opposed to postponing and restarting or ending it the way it was? Everything below the National League North and South in England. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Imagine if Falkirk end up getting promoted because Hearts and Partick get punted from the league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsCG Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, C. Muir said: Come to think of it, has any league in the world null and voided their season as opposed to postponing and restarting or ending it the way it was? I’m no advocate for null and void, far from it. But isn’t our top league, the only top flight League in Europe to relegate teams? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM. Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, JagsCG said: I’m no advocate for null and void, far from it. But isn’t our top league, the only top flight League in Europe to relegate teams? Don't know if this exactly right but sure I read somewhere that the difference between other leagues and ours is that other leagues FA's chose to curtail the season whereas our FA put it to a vote between the member clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsCG Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, C. Muir said: Don't know if this exactly right but sure I read somewhere that the difference between other leagues and ours is that other leagues FA's chose to curtail the season whereas our FA put it to a vote between the member clubs. I think that’s certainly the difference with the French League, I’m not sure about the others. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 So..we playing in October then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsCG Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, Big Fifer said: So..we playing in October then? Hopefully 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM. Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, Big Fifer said: So..we playing in October then? Apparently all clubs in L1 and 2 have been asked whether they firstly plan to enter the 2020/21 season and secondly if they'd prefer August, October or January start dates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 11 top flight leagues finished early. Of those 4 relegated teams - France, Belgium, Bosnia & Herzegovina and Scotland. As things stand Scotland and Bosnia & Herzegovina are the only 2 where this stands although I would think France will join them. The only reason the French teams have been successful so far in suspending relegation is because the court agreed the convention which the French league followed was only valid until June 2020 and a new set of rules needed to be drafted going forward. The French league will more than likely draft the new convention and have it voted through and therefore relegate Toulouse and Amiens. The talk of it being because the league board deciding it rather than a members' vote is a red herring. That may be the case for Belgium though, I've not looked into what's happening there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, C. Muir said: Apparently all clubs in L1 and 2 have been asked whether they firstly plan to enter the 2020/21 season and secondly if they'd prefer August, October or January start dates. Unfortunately January would be the most sensible option for League 1 and 2 unless we got firm confirmation that fans would be back before then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsCG Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 What League 2 clubs would be opposed to mothballing til January or beyond? Queen's Park? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartcraig Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 14-10-10-10 or null and void.I assume those are the outcomes you consider sensible. Any object reason that the approach the member clubs voted for isn’t sensible? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan57 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 "Unfortunately, Scottish football has been unable to pull together at this time of national crisis to prevent the need for this legal challenge. We desperately hoped Court action would not be necessary, but we were left with no other option. " I'll rewrite that for them: Unfortunately, at this time of national crisis that has f**k all to do with Hearts being rank and getting relegated this season, not enough Scottish clubs voted for the outcome that we wanted so we've taken an entirely voluntary course of action but we still have massive brass neck so will claim we were forced to do it.The National crisis has nothing to do with Hearts, Thistle and presumably Stranraer being rank - but it has everything to do with these clubs relegated prematurely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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