glensmad Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Great so a lowland and east of scotland nobody in the west juniors know leading the way for our clubs what could possibly go wrong! We know who you are. Again. [emoji23]Point and giggle. [emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 44 minutes ago, fieldofdreams8 said: Great so a lowland and east of scotland nobody in the west juniors know leading the way for our clubs what could possibly go wrong! The last couple of actions taken by the people they knew were dealing with a racist incident and backtracking on a decision that required an independent investigation. By most account it seems like Dave McKenna is keeping the clubs fairly well informed of the goings on, so they probably know him a decent amount at this point. Even if that's not good enough for your tiny troll mind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, glensmad said: One suggestion was Premiership, Championship, League One and League Two, but from the discussions that didn't seem to have much support. The other options were Premier, Division One, Two and Three. or Premier, Division Two, Three and Four or One, Two, Three and Four. Would be good if it was the same as the EOS so there's consistency in the regional leagues (i.e. option 1 but with First Division), same as the pre-SPFL days too. On the other hand option 2 is nice as means the WOS 4th/9th pyramid tier is called Division Four. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) The last West Junior fixture man who plenty fawned over on the Junior forum, who btw was pathological in his hatred of the pyramid. Never understood that since a 15 year old could create a season's league fixtures on a pc in a couple of hours. Edited June 28, 2020 by Tutankhamen Eff the SFA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy25 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 You dont half spout some pish on here [emoji849] The last West Junior fixture man who plenty fawned over on the Junior forum, who btw was pathological in his hatred of the pyramid. Never understood that since a 15 year old could create a season's league fixtures on a pc in a couple of hours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, andy25 said: You dont half spout some pish on here Too close to home, Andy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 3 hours ago, andy25 said: Glensmad is trying his hardest to get on it... Better him than some the rednecks that ran the SJWR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy25 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 [emoji849] Better him than some the rednecks that ran the SJWR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy25 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 No you just post the same pish all the time .Rednecks, your hatred of Ayrshire, Sevco blah blah blah[emoji57] Too close to home, Andy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Would be good if it was the same as the EOS so there's consistency in the regional leagues (i.e. option 1 but with First Division), same as the pre-SPFL days too. On the other hand option 2 is nice as means the WOS 4th/9th pyramid tier is called Division Four.As long as the 3rd tier isn't called League One and the 4th tier isn't called League Two. That is just daft.WoSFL One to Four would be my personal choice, or Premier League, 2, 3 and 4. Anything other than this nonsense of Premiership, Championship, League One, League Two cringeworthy guff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, glensmad said: As long as the 3rd tier isn't called League One and the 4th tier isn't called League Two. That is just daft. WoSFL One to Four would be my personal choice, or Premier League, 2, 3 and 4. Anything other than this nonsense of Premiership, Championship, League One, League Two cringeworthy guff. Totally agree. Also, having a Premier and a 1st Division/League 1 is equally daft since (as we all know) Premier means 1st! In case anyone's interested, the working group for the reconstruction of the WRSJFA Leagues 2+ years ago proposed the naming format of Premiership, Championship, League One, League Two at the request of then Regional President Felix McKenna. As I recall, nobody else on the group objected, and the assumption was that, if the clubs didn't like it, somebody would propose an amendment and they'd vote to change it at the AGM. But they didn't do that. So, if the 63 clubs now DON'T like it, they've only themselves to blame! Edited June 28, 2020 by archieb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, archieb said: Also, having a Premier and a 1st Division/League 1 is equally daft since (as we all know) Premier means 1st! Seems no one has told the English non-leagues as they have Premier Division and Division One/Two etc being used all down the pyramid. Edited June 28, 2020 by Ginaro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Seems no one has told the English non-leagues as they have Premier Division and Division One/Two etc being used all down the pyramid. [emoji14]Yes, but for very different reasons. When England started using those names, it was because the Premiership was a breakaway from the English Football League. So the 2nd tier in England became the top tier under the auspices of the EFL and they were using the old English Division One "Championship" trophy. League One was their equivalent of our 1st Division and so on. So there was a bit of logic to it, although it was still daft. When the SPFL copied those names it was embarrassing, and and when the West juniors then did the same it was cringeworthy. They clearly hadn't a clue why the English chose those names and thought it was just an attempt to be trendy, a really bad attempt as well. They should have looked around Europe at the other major leagues and seen the simplicity of their names. La Liga and Segunda (which means "second"). Serie A and Serie B. Bundesliga and Bundesliga 2. Ligue 1 and Ligue 2. Keep it simple and easy to understand for people who don't know the levels looking in from outside, e.g. new potential sponsors and supporters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, glensmad said: Yes, but for very different reasons. When England started using those names, it was because the Premiership was a breakaway from the English Football League. So the 2nd tier in England became the top tier under the auspices of the EFL and they were using the old English Division One "Championship" trophy. League One was their equivalent of our 1st Division and so on. So there was a bit of logic to it, although it was still daft. When the SPFL copied those names it was embarrassing, and and when the West juniors then did the same it was cringeworthy. They clearly hadn't a clue why the English chose those names and thought it was just an attempt to be trendy, a really bad attempt as well. They should have looked around Europe at the other major leagues and seen the simplicity of their names. La Liga and Segunda (which means "second"). Serie A and Serie B. Bundesliga and Bundesliga 2. Ligue 1 and Ligue 2. Keep it simple and easy to understand for people who don't know the levels looking in from outside, e.g. new potential sponsors and supporters. I know the history behind the EPL/EFL names - which is why I said English non-league If this was England then it would be WOSFL Premier Division, WOSFL Division One etc (going by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_league_system) Spain begin well with La Liga and Segunda but their third tier is named Segunda División B and their fourth tier is named Tercera (which means third!). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classof2010 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Dave McKenna is from East Kilbride FC. Andrew Waddell is from an East club, not sure which. Yes, eventually the clubs will vote for who takes these roles going forward.Cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classof2010 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Great so a lowland and east of scotland nobody in the west juniors know leading the way for our clubs what could possibly go wrong! I’d wait to see the result of the investigation before we talk about the west juniors committee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, andy25 said: No you just post the same pish all the time . Rednecks, your hatred of Ayrshire, Sevco blah blah blah You still deleting the e-mails, Bro. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 8 hours ago, Ginaro said: I know the history behind the EPL/EFL names - which is why I said English non-league If this was England then it would be WOSFL Premier Division, WOSFL Division One etc (going by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_league_system) Spain begin well with La Liga and Segunda but their third tier is named Segunda División B and their fourth tier is named Tercera (which means third!). Calling the top flight of a league system "premier" or something similar happens in many places. In The Netherlands for example the 4 national tiers are "eredivisie" (meaning "division of honour"), followed by the 1st, 2nd and 3rd divisions. Below that when it goes regionalised the top flights are called "hoofdklasse" ("premier class"). Followed by 1st, 2nd 3rd etc. divisions. Similar naming structures are in place elsewhere. It's calling the 2nd tier "championship" that's really cringeworthy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village elder Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I really cannot believe that some of you are having a hissy fit over the naming of leagues .For f**k sake the world as we know it is in complete turmoli and we are filling our panty liners over the naming of leagues .It 's almost enough to make you go back to the "seniors " this makes us a friggin' laughing stock.On another note somebody had a pop at the wests fixture man ...when he took over he did an outstanding job ...compared to the cretin before him.No crime in not wanting to move towards the pyramid system 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, Village elder said: I really cannot believe that some of you are having a hissy fit over the naming of leagues .For f**k sake the world as we know it is in complete turmoli and we are filling our panty liners over the naming of leagues .It 's almost enough to make you go back to the "seniors " this makes us a friggin' laughing stock.On another note somebody had a pop at the wests fixture man ...when he took over he did an outstanding job ...compared to the cretin before him.No crime in not wanting to move towards the pyramid system So because we're in a global pandemic we can't state our opinion about football related matters on a football forum? I think "Championship", "League 1" and "League 2" for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th tier within one organisation is awful naming and clearly I'm not alone. Feel free to disagree but there is nothing wrong with having an opinion about how the leagues should be named. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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