Thistle_do_nicely Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Folk will defend the black cop who hit her on the basis she hit the white cop. It wont matter what was said. The Police have no right to strike someone like that. Fucking wild. I agree with that, and it's hard not to say this in a "but whit about thaim" whataboutery way, but surely by extension she has no right to take a couple of swings at the police officer? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I agree with that, and it's hard not to say this in a "but whit about thaim" whataboutery way, but surely by extension she has no right to take a couple of swings at the police officer?Yeah correct. Ans she should have been restrained and arrested by said copper. Not brazenly assaulted 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Good skills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the aggressive beggar Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 6 minutes ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: I agree with that, and it's hard not to say this in a "but whit about thaim" whataboutery way, but surely by extension she has no right to take a couple of swings at the police officer? Yeah correct. Ans she should have been restrained and arrested by said copper. Not brazenly assaulted She's probably safer getting decked tbf Edited May 30, 2020 by the aggressive beggar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Bairnardo said: 1 minute ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: I agree with that, and it's hard not to say this in a "but whit about thaim" whataboutery way, but surely by extension she has no right to take a couple of swings at the police officer? Yeah correct. Ans she should have been restrained and arrested by said copper. Not brazenly assaulted Fair enough. Find it really hard to view her getting decked as a fair and proportionate response. She's probably fortunate she didn't get a few clips of pistol rounds fired into her. The laaaaand of the freeeeee... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 5 hours ago, ICTChris said: Has anyone on here ever been in a riot? Was living in Barcelona during the 2017 kerfuffle but avoided it like the plague. My girlfriend at the time's cousin got a decent shiner off the Guardia Civil though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 5 hours ago, ICTChris said: Has anyone on here ever been in a riot? Lots of Rangers supporters responding to this without mentioning Manchester. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Wow, that’s a blast from the past, think they may have supported Stiff Little Fingers at Glasgow Apollo 79 ish?[emoji848] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: I agree with that, and it's hard not to say this in a "but whit about thaim" whataboutery way, but surely by extension she has no right to take a couple of swings at the police officer? An officer would have the right to defend himself or restrain her to prevent harm to a colleague. But the force used would have to be proportionate to the risk posed. He could have very easily tried to restrain her. They had the numbers and the officer who struck her was unsighted by her. A punch to a face is a pretty serious and risky option. You lose any control over how they land, they can strike their heads and die, you risk escalating the situation and possibly getting other involved in a fist fight to defend the woman, its just terrible policing. Edited May 30, 2020 by dorlomin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just now, Clockwork said: Wow, that’s a blast from the past, think they may have supported Stiff Little Fingers at Glasgow Apollo 79 ish? Don't remember that and they are among the few I didn't get to see. Great band though and the later stuff is good too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Folk will defend the black cop who hit her on the basis she hit the white cop. It wont matter what was said. The Police have no right to strike someone like that. Fucking wild. They're both at fault. She shouldn't be waddling about belting police officers and he shouldn't have lamped her, her head must've took some whack off the ground. I get that the officer was hyped up/maybe even panicking but if they can't deal with that then they shouldn't be in the job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, The OP said: Lots of Rangers supporters responding to this without mentioning Manchester. Or celtic fans without mentioning Amsterdam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, bennett said: Or celtic fans without mentioning Amsterdam. I don’t think a polis running into a lamppost and a few brave bhoys defending themselves counts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: Was living in Barcelona during the 2017 kerfuffle but avoided it like the plague. My girlfriend at the time's cousin got a decent shiner off the Guardia Civil though Kerfuffle? Really? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just now, The OP said: I don’t think a polis running into a lamppost and a few brave bhoys defending themselves counts. The totalitarian overzealous Dutch polis were to blame. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, bennett said: I get that the officer was hyped up/maybe even panicking A punch to the face\head should be about your last force escalation before drawing a firearm to discharge it. Night stick out and a thwack to the upper arm would have ensured she was not lifting it for any more punches. There are a host of other things he should have done first. If he was panicking then its not him. Its the whole force that is not training properly or has such lax over sight that acting like coked up bouncers is the norm. The officer not getting attacked, with a 3-1 advantage of an unfit woman, losing his shit over some flappy punches at a colleague? The whole point of training is that in those situations you move through the gears of how to de-escallate the situation as much as possible and use the safest form of force intervention when needed to to protect others\subdue for an arrest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Quite enjoying folk pointing out the Boston Tea Party was essentially a riot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Trumps going to send in the military 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Month old but showing the level of violence that is considered normal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, bennett said: The totalitarian overzealous Dutch polis were to blame. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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