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9 hours ago, ali_91 said:

You’ve laid out the officers version of events regarding Jacob Blake and presented it as fact. Absolutely no surprise to see you pushing a ‘he deserved it’ agenda though, at least you’re consistent.

Kudos for the attempt to blame those against indiscriminate shooting of black men for the racists in America though, looking forward to the ‘it’s the anti fascists that are the real fascists!!!,’ line in your next post. 

No. I laid out the events based on a couple of videos, transcripts and reports of the Jacob Blake incident, that I perused.
I have not pushed the 'he deserved it' agenda.  You are seeing what you want to see, not what is there.
Yes. I am consistent. I try to reduce all my predudice, remove feelings and look at facts.  Mmm. US police shoot black man. 'Bad racist shoot another innocent'. Ring any bells? Have you any idea what the police who fired the shots is like as a person. I don't.  Have YOU made assumptions?

"Kudos for the attempt to blame those against indiscriminate shooting of black men"    REALLY ?  I am blaming myself?       Given the evidence I have seen, I do not think this was 'an indiscriminate shooting'.  I am happy to change my mind if given more evidence. Are you? 

No. You won't hear that 'real facists' thing from me. (another assumption?)  I don't band the word 'fascist' about easily but, in my experience, those who shout about b1eing 'anti-fascist' and 'anti-nazi' are some of the least tolerant people I know.  I genuinely do not know any fascists or nazis, and neither would I want to, but if you stray from the very narrow path of these 'anti' people, they usually turn on you as a noisy crazed mob. (Google YouTube 'sjw').  And when did it become 'normal' to shout out you are 'anti-facist'? Is that not the norm? Did I miss something?  Do I now need to wear a badge declaring I am against rape? 

So, sorry to disappoint.

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1 hour ago, Bairnardo said:
1 hour ago, Sinner-to-Saint said:
I don't consider myself left or right. I like to judge these things based on the facts alone.
So far the narrative appears to be:
1) The kid is hanging about with a militia, ostensibly protecting property and upholding the law, armed with an assault rifle and carrying a first aid kit.
2) He extinguishes a fire lit by the protesters, who then verbally abuse him, and then an altercation occurs where he runs and is chased and the first person is shot.
3) The second incident is recorded, and I suggest anybody interested watches the footage. It's all over Twitter. It shows the perpetrator being chased by several people, get hit with a skateboard and stumble and fall to the ground. He fires about three shots, and is actually pretty calm given the circumstances. 
I think the fact Rosenbaum was a paedophile and was acting aggressively doesn't, of course, justify his death. However it does testify to his unsavoury character.  
There's lots of other footage of other incidents that occurred that night to:
 

A dreadful post. A dreadful interpretation of events.

1 hour ago, GAD said:

A guy travels hundreds of miles with a gun in order to pick a fight, murders two people when he gets there, and the P&B incels think we don't know who the real criminal is here?

He lived just across the state line, around 30 mins away. You clearly have done zero research, unlike me, and cannot even be bothered to try to conceal your ignorance and prejudice.

 

 

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He lived just across the state line, around 30 mins away. You clearly have done zero research, unlike me, and cannot even be bothered to try to conceal your ignorance and prejudice.
 
 
Not doing a great job of concealing your own prejudice either m9.

Although I am sort of making the mistake of a serious reply to a trolling shitheel racist.

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7 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Not doing a great job of concealing your own prejudice either m9.

Although I am sort of making the mistake of a serious reply to a trolling shitheel racist.

[RAGE DETECTED]

Care to show me where I have expressed bias?

There's a video I found earlier in which he was interviewed on the night, prior to the events, and he stated his intention was to guard property. I haven't given a penny to his crowdfunding page, either - https://www.givesendgo.com/GUCZ 

Based on all the evidence I have seen, he definitely will not be convicted of murder. He's raised over $200,000 for his defence, and has the Covington boys' lawyer working pro bono. 

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Just now, Sinner-to-Saint said:

[RAGE DETECTED]

Care to show me where I have expressed bias?

There's a video I found earlier in which he was interviewed on the night, prior to the events, and he stated his intention was to guard property. I haven't given a penny to his crowdfunding page, either - https://www.givesendgo.com/GUCZ 

Based on all the evidence I have seen, he definitely will not be convicted of murder. He's raised over $200,000 for his defence, and has the Covington boys' lawyer working pro bono. 

Na, you are either a racist or someone who thinks it's funny to troll this type of topic. Neither type of person will attract a second more of my time than it takes to call you an arsehole.

 

Arsehole

 

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This is one of the videos I watched, in which the presenter provides evidence that the kid put out a fire in a dumpster which aggravated the protesters, and that one of the dead is a paedo.

This will be another interesting trial. Do you think it will be televised like the OJ Simpson and Zimmerman court dramas?

 

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5 minutes ago, ali_91 said:

This new breed of troll who thinks saying something utterly moronic and someone calling them c**t for it = effective trolling is such a VL version of your proper troll. Terrible stuff. 

If you consider an objective analysis based on video footage and scutinisng facts to be 'trolling', 'moronic', 'racist' or any other pejorative term you fancy, then aye, I am all of those things. :)

The responses from you, Bairnardo, et al has been ad hominem and invective. I have been perfectly polite and civilised, as any impartial person will see. :)

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38 minutes ago, Sinner-to-Saint said:

He lived just across the state line, around 30 mins away. You clearly have done zero research, unlike me, and cannot even be bothered to try to conceal your ignorance and prejudice.

 

 

 

Mare, the fact he "only" travelled 30 minutes, with his gun, to pick a fight and murder two people doesn't really make it that much better.

Your prejudice has been showing for months. We all see you.

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3 minutes ago, Sinner-to-Saint said:

If you consider an objective analysis based on video footage and scutinisng facts to be 'trolling', 'moronic', 'racist' or any other pejorative term you fancy, then aye, I am all of those things. :)

The responses from you, Bairnardo, et al has been ad hominem and invective. I have been perfectly polite and civilised, as any impartial person will see. :)

If you’re considering Andy Ngo objective analysis then you’re absolutely a trolling moronic racist.

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Just now, GAD said:

 

Mare, the fact he "only" travelled 30 minutes, with his gun, to pick a fight and murder two people doesn't really make it that much better.

Your prejudice has been showing for months. We all see you.

Another baseless allegation of prejudice without anything at all to substantiate it. :)

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Just now, carpetmonster said:

If you’re considering Andy Ngo objective analysis then you’re absolutely a trolling moronic racist.

When did I say he was objective? I merely linked to video footage he'd posted. What you're suggesting he's edited or otherwise manipulated the footage, now?

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1 minute ago, Sinner-to-Saint said:

When did I say he was objective? I merely linked to video footage he'd posted. What you're suggesting he's edited or otherwise manipulated the footage, now?

In the post I quoted you about 3 posts ago. This is really shit-tier sealioning mate. 

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Just now, Sinner-to-Saint said:

Another baseless allegation of prejudice without anything at all to substantiate it. :)

Two people are dead. Your boy travelled 30 minutes (according to you) and shot them with a gun he brought with him. These are facts. Now you obviously identify with this wee boy, see a bit of yourself in him, but facts don't care about your feelings son.

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3 minutes ago, GAD said:

Two people are dead. Your boy travelled 30 minutes (according to you) and shot them with a gun he brought with him. These are facts. Now you obviously identify with this wee boy, see a bit of yourself in him, but facts don't care about your feelings son.

It is about 30 minutes, although his allegations of doing ‘research’ could just have been reading my post where I said that. I’m about an hour south of Kenosha. If not, then it takes all of 10 seconds to get it off google maps. He definitely read the post because he greenied it for whatever reason. 

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4 minutes ago, GAD said:

Two people are dead. Your boy travelled 30 minutes (according to you) and shot them with a gun he brought with him. These are facts. Now you obviously identify with this wee boy, see a bit of yourself in him, but facts don't care about your feelings son.

According to his lawyer the gun didn't cross the state lawyer, at least if I recall correctly. 

Interesting, so you believe I 'identify' with this boy, because I have the audacity to suggest he might have acted in self-defence. That would imply you identify with the victims, given that's how your mind works - a paedophile and a domestic abuser...

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