Binos Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 5 hours ago, MixuFruit said: Well, as a wee thought experiment imagine if instead of there being black and white people in the USA there were just people who could or could not pronounce the word 'nuclear' correctly. Imagine that people who said 'nucular' were the ones involved in more crime - do you think the police would shoot them in the same sort of numbers? Is widespread gun ownership a factor in how many police are shot? Absolutely. Are black people dispoportionate assailants in these cases? Yes. Does this mean there's something intrinsic to black people that makes them do this more than white people? Absolutely not. Who said that there was The reasons why an area's population had higher crime would be deep seated long running socioeconomic But it could explain the police's disproportionate behaviour in those areas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, HeartsOfficialMoaner said: Richard Pryor - That Nigger’s Crazy (1974) Niggers v Police Woah, were not allowed to say f**k or c**t or even "PM me ***" but the N word has no filter. Not that the above use is offensive but if that's not white privilege then I don't know what is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: fair do's. I thought you were implying it wasn't, was wrong. In Canada 3 percent of the population, native indigenous peoples, make up 20 percent of the prison population Are indigenous peoples inherently criminal, no Why are tonnes of them in prison. Cause they're kind of fucked and similar to the Australian aboriginal people subject to some of saddest stories about Will the police go onto reservations primed for discovering criminality far more than any other areas, undoubtedly and they'd be right It's the same process in the states with black areas but over the border everyone is armed Edited August 30, 2020 by Binos 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner-to-Saint Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: It's also fine if they start chasing you after you threaten them with said assault rifle, as they are now the aggressor. What it's always important to remember in criminal cases, is that the accused is INNOCENT until proven guilty, and the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt. I'm doubtful any jury will convict a man of murder, when he;'s being chased by a mob who were throwing things at him. Interestingly one of the two killed was allegedly a paedo, which will make people sympathetic. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sinner-to-Saint said: Interestingly one of the two killed was allegedly a paedo Source please. Additionally, did the killer know this when he shot him? Edited August 30, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Sinner-to-Saint said: What it's always important to remember in criminal cases, is that the accused is INNOCENT until proven guilty, and the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt. I'm doubtful any jury will convict a man of murder, when he;'s being chased by a mob who were throwing things at him. Interestingly one of the two killed was allegedly a paedo, which will make people sympathetic. Interestingly, the hero with the assault rifle also likes to beat up girls. He's a hero though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, ali_91 said: It’s absolutely mind boggling to me anybody can watch what happened, hear the circumstances of what he was doing there, and come to the conclusion he’s a hero who has been hard done to. Pretty disgusting. Pretty much. I don't think he went with the intention of killing anyone, more that he thought he was the big man, and suddenly found himself well out of his depth and panicked. I can't believe the number of people trying to defend him as "a member of a militia" rather than questioning the utter fucking lunacy that their constitution allows this sort of shit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner-to-Saint Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Source please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Taking Jeremiah Cole seriously is nearly as bad as taking H_B seriously [emoji23] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner-to-Saint Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ali_91 said: It’s absolutely mind boggling to me anybody can watch what happened, hear the circumstances of what he was doing there, and come to the conclusion he’s a hero who has been hard done to. Pretty disgusting. Are you in possession of all the facts? Facts can and often are distorted to portray a false narrative. Do you remember George Zimmerman? The 'white man' who allegedly killed an unarmed black teen? Or the Covington school boys? The latter were actually subjected to racial abuse if you watch the video. But both parties were portrayed by the media to be wicked, using selectively edited recordings. If I was to select certain facts, I could say this was a case of a child acting in self defence after he was pursued by a paedophile. Edited August 30, 2020 by Sinner-to-Saint -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: Taking Jeremiah Cole seriously is nearly as bad as taking H_B seriously It's wisbit, m8. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner-to-Saint Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Here's another one: -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 5 hours ago, NewBornBairn said: The US figure may be lower - https://ucr.fbi.gov/leoka/2018/topic-pages/tables/table-85.xls So 550,000 police for 250 million = 1 cop for every 454 people compared to 1 for every 319 in Scotland. The last record I can find of a police officer being violently killed in Scotland is 1994 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Binos said: The last record I can find of a police officer being violently killed in Scotland is 1994 Was s/he "racially profiled"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: Seems the FBI use different definitions of who counts as a law enforcement officer, this one counts it as 687000 and rising in 2018. The problem is there are so many separate policing bodies in the US. And the population figure I get is 328 million, so actually one cop for 477 people. But then they have another 450,000 in the National Guard to back them up, which would give a figure of one cop for every 288 citizens. https://www.statista.com/statistics/191694/number-of-law-enforcement-officers-in-the-us/ The national guard is the same as the TA Unless you're going to count the TA as police here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, Binos said: The national guard is the same as the TA Unless you're going to count the TA as police here? Can't remember the TA ever getting sent in to control a demonstration/riot/miner's strike. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 51 minutes ago, Sinner-to-Saint said: I didn't offer an opinion, but stated I thought it was a good analysis. This is an opinion 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Sinner-to-Saint said: Bit pedantic, but where is the evidence of a minor being involved? And whether the killer knew him from Adam? Edited August 30, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Can't remember the TA ever getting sent in to control a demonstration/riot/miner's strike. It'll have to be a helluva crisis before sending in a bunch of fat, unfit, alcoholic blowhards will help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Binos said: The last record I can find of a police officer being violently killed in Scotland is 1994 Lewis Fulton. Killed saving the life of another officer who had also been stabbed in Norfolk street in the Gorbals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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