Bohemian Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Sinner-to-Saint said: I have only heard of the old retired cop who died, which was why I asked. This is a thread discussing the riots, right? Is this not pertinent to the discussion? Or is this supposed to be some sort of echo chamber? If something doesn't fit the narrative pushed, surely that's very important and worthy of serious investigation? You posted it, you investigate and come back with facts..ffs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner-to-Saint Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bohemian said: You posted it, you investigate and come back with facts..ffs What? I'm not doing all the work. I've not got an agenda, other than uncovering the truth. It seems that the media are being selective in what they're reporting, it's almost as if they want to create animosity and division. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sinner-to-Saint said: What? I'm not doing all the work. I've not got an agenda, other than uncovering the truth. It seems that the media are being selective in what they're reporting, it's almost as if they want to create animosity and division. Oh I think you have a little bit of an agenda.. Edited June 8, 2020 by Bohemian 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Sinner-to-Saint said: I have only heard of the old retired cop who died, which was why I asked. This is a thread discussing the riots, right? Is this not pertinent to the discussion? Or is this supposed to be some sort of echo chamber? If something doesn't fit the narrative pushed, surely that's very important and worthy of serious investigation? I'd be happy to discuss it if you provided more than a montage of 5 people I don't know from Adam and an anonymous headline. You could start with the explaining the retired cop, and check out the others, then maybe we could have a conversation. And maybe explain if or why their skin colour matters in this context. Edited June 8, 2020 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'd be happy to discuss it if you provided more than a montage of 5 people I don't know from Adam and an anonymous headline. You could start with the explaining the retired cop, and check out the others, then maybe we could have a conversation. But he doesn't want to do all of the work...he posts something and we explain it to him, I think that's what he wants.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bohemian said: But he doesn't want to do all of the work...he posts something and we explain it to him, I think that's what he wants.. I see. He's just an earnest seeker of truth but can't be arsed doing his own research. Fair do's. Might be some money in it if we keep in with him eh? Poor Tommy, sadly traduced, he loves his Mum! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner-to-Saint Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Bohemian said: But he doesn't want to do all of the work...he posts something and we explain it to him, I think that's what he wants.. That's about the size of it. As WelshBairn correctly states, all I saw was 'a montage of 5 people...and an anonymous headline.' Naturally that alone is insufficient evidence, I need sources. But I have work in the morning, and a cursory search didn't amount to much. I thought that given there are 71 pages in this thread, most of which I haven't read, it may have been discussed or people might be willing to do a bit of digging, either to repudiate or validate the assertion. ETA: this is the ex-cop, David Dorn: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/david-dorn-st-louis-police-shot-trnd/index.html I suppose I could do reverse image searches for the rest. But I really cannot be bothered now. Edited June 8, 2020 by Sinner-to-Saint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, Sinner-to-Saint said: That's about the size of it. As WelshBairn correctly states, all I saw was 'a montage of 5 people...and an anonymous headline.' Naturally that alone is insufficient evidence, I need sources. But I have work in the morning, and a cursory search didn't amount to much. I thought that given there are 71 pages in this thread, most of which I haven't read, it may have been discussed or people might be willing to do a bit of digging, either to repudiate or validate the assertion. ETA: this is the ex-cop, David Dorn: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/david-dorn-st-louis-police-shot-trnd/index.html I suppose I could do reverse image searches for the rest. But I really cannot be bothered now. Might be easier to track down who wrote the headline. Could be more revealing than the head shots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mackie The Staggie Posted June 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sinner-to-Saint said: Wow! The author doesn't specify when the riots took place, but it is implied that they're all this week. Can anybody confirm that? Ok, I'll bite, but only because that tweet is so misleading it's unreal. The tweet suggests all 5 where officers, however only one was actual in service and the another was retired. Looking at the replies to it, it's full of mindless idiots unable to do their own research. Bottom Left - David McAtee was shot and killed by Louisville Metro Police and National Guard, authorities claim they were returning fire, however video evidence suggest that they had fired pepper balls at the restaurant first before McAtee fired his weapon, possibly fearing possible looters. The body cameras worn by the officers at the time surprsingly were never switched on......strange that one. (link - https://abc7chicago.com/david-mcatee-louisville-shooting-police/6235196/) Top left - Chris Beaty was a night club and business owner who had intervened in a mugging and got shot (link - https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/local-artists-indianapolis-chris-beaty-mural) Center - David Dorn, retired police chief shot and killed by looter in a pawn shop. (link - https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/david-dorn-st-louis-police-shot-trnd/index.html) Top right - David Patrick Underwood, shot and killed in a drive by shooting while providing security at outside a courthouse in Oakland, the FBI are investigating as it's been investigated as domestic terriosim and motive is unclear, not been linked to riots as of yet. (link - https://www.wfmj.com/story/42198950/retired-officer-ex-college-athlete-among-victims-of-unrest) Bottom right - Unkown. I can only find one female death during the period of time for the protests, Sarah Grossman. Sarah died due to acute respiratory issues after she was in a group sprayed with tear gas at a demonstration in Ohio. (link - https://www.thelantern.com/2020/06/columbus-looks-into-death-of-ohio-state-grad-who-attended-downtown-protests/) Social media is full mistruth and exaggeration on both sides, it's your responsibility to double check what non-verified sources spout out especially if it's pushing a narrative All this took me less than 10 mins to check. Edited June 8, 2020 by Mackie The Staggie Can't spell for shit..... 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Sinner-to-Saint said: What? I'm not doing all the work. I've not got an agenda, other than uncovering the truth. It seems that the media are being selective in what they're reporting, it's almost as if they want to create animosity and division. Judging by your credulous stupidity throughout this thread's last few pages, I'd say "uncovering the truth" might be a tad ambitious for you. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 17 hours ago, Highland Capital said: You just know that you're going to see some of these awful faux-Scots signs at the Glasgow and Edinburgh protests. "Racists haud yer weesht" and all that pish. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Who is this St Mirren c**t? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 9 hours ago, MrWorldwideJr said: Have you missed the push over the past week for more of Britain's colonial/slave trading/generally horrifically racist history to actually be taught in schools? The push being made by exactly the same movement which tore down that statue today? Seems to me that teaching children in schools is probably a more effective method of making sure people know about and learn from history than leaving up a random scattering of statues across the country. Genuinely wild that the line folk are going for with this is 'erasing history' when that history goes completely ignored and unacknowledged every single day in this country. Willing to bet that most of the people opposing it being torn down had never even heard of this guy until today and had no idea this historically crucial statue existed. I know I hadn't which is absolutely shameful both on a personal level and as a comment on how completely absent from life in the UK any acknowledgement of the non sunshine and rainbows elements of our history is. Given that the history taught in British schools generally consists of the Tudors, industrial revolution and then the 1st and 2nd world wars, there's no reason why you (or 99%) of the country, would have ever heard of Colston or Britain's long connection with slavery. I agree completely that education is the way forward. It'll be far more effective than defacing statues, which in all honesty looks like stupid student cuntery and only succeeds in both polarising views and losing a worthy cause a huge amount of support from 'normal' people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Who is this St Mirren c**t? It's like a slightly more articulate gravity denier. I can't see him getting in the clique any time soon tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Agree with first part and disagree with second part of this. Chucking that statue in the harbour has instantly educated millions of people in who Edward Colston was. I certainly had no idea who he was and only a vague inkling that Bristol was part of the slave trade. There's now talk of knocking Henry Dundas off his plinth in Edinburgh which I would hope would do the same thing. They should just decapitate every statue just to be on the safe side and stick Ronaldo's head on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 The Glasgow and Edinburgh protests looked like an excellent place to go and meet loose women. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 The Edinburgh protest. White people standing in a field looking bored and most importantly following the Government rules on social distancing. Wild stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Fratelli said: If this is what the whole thing is doing to our brave Tommy then i suggest they keep doing it. Very angry wee man. There's a lot of statues in London. Will there be enough statue protectors? "We'll protect old London's statues." Edited June 8, 2020 by Jacksgranda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 43 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Who is this St Mirren c**t? I'm afraid you'll need to narrow that down 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Sinner-to-Saint said: This guy posts some interesting facts, which appear to destroy the promoted narrative: How does that work out % wise? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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