Gordon EF Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, NotThePars said: I don't even think the libs are advocating for this Well no, clearly nobody is advocating for that. But it's the logical conclusion if someone thinks the main issue with police violence in the US is the racially imbalanced nature of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: Well no, clearly nobody is advocating for that. But it's the logical conclusion if someone thinks the main issue with police violence in the US is the racially imbalanced nature of it. You should probably just quit while you're behind, m8. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, ali_91 said: “I agree that black people should be treated better, but surely everyone should be treated better, the hashtag #alllivesmatter would surely be much better, no?” type post. Are you aiming to be the most predictable poster on P&B? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: I didn't say race is a sideshow to the protests. Race is clearly the main focus of the protests. The racial element is to some extent a sideshow in the issue of police violence in the States. Because I think the main issue is the unacceptable level of lethal violence used by the police against the public in America. The disproportionate nature of that violence in terms of race is important but is not the main issue, for me. If that's the issue that's focused on, I think that's a mistake. He's trolling and not being serious, usually he'll carry on for a day or two then get bored. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Remember last week when people were scared of Covid? - 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: I didn't say race is a sideshow to the protests. Race is clearly the main focus of the protests. The racial element is to some extent a sideshow in the issue of police violence in the States. I really isn’t a sideshow where police brutality is involved, particularly in the US. That’s a classic deflection Gordon and I think you know that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, ali_91 said: “I agree that black people should be treated better, but surely everyone should be treated better, the hashtag #alllivesmatter would surely be much better, no?” type post. He’s one step away from “it’s ok to be white” here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Remember last week when people were scared of Covid? - Apart from the absurdity of them protesting in the uk, did the covid 19 pandemic slip their minds..... Back to full lockdown in a few weeks then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: I really isn’t a sideshow where police brutality is involved, particularly in the US. That’s a classic deflection Gordon and I think you know that. Maybe it is, maybe I'm wrong. I'm not stubborn enough not to accept that or question what I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: He’s one step away from “it’s ok to be white” here. You know that's a fairly moronic thing to say right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Black people, a great bunch of lads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Black people, a great bunch of lads. Old woman outside the White House “it’s not the blacks, it’s the Chinese he’s after”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 8 hours ago, 101 said: I despair that the international community haven't really called the US out more, if this level of state violence was seen in the middle east, Africa or Asia there would be serious international condemnation That's not how being a vassal state works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) I tend to think that if a police officer killed a suspect of a different ethnicity in the middle east, Asia or Africa precisely no British person on social media would give a f**k. Edited May 31, 2020 by The OP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: You know that's a fairly moronic thing to say right? More moronic than saying racism is a sideshow to police brutality in the US? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, The OP said: I tend to think that if a police officer killed a suspect of a different ethnicity in the middle east, Asia or Africa precisely no British person on social media would give a f**k. Maybe we hold ‘Western democracies’ to a higher standard. Is that wrong? I recall the protests during the Apartheid era, that was an African country; people were genuinely disgusted by what was happening. Pity we don’t have the same disgust towards Israel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: More moronic than saying racism is a sideshow to police brutality in the US? Yes. In hindsight, I would have chosen different wording but I've explained what I meant by it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: Maybe we hold ‘Western democracies’ to a higher standard. Is that wrong? I recall the protests during the Apartheid era, that was an African country; people were genuinely disgusted by what was happening. Pity we don’t have the same disgust towards Israel. Wasn’t offering a commentary, just musing on the point that the international condemnation would be higher if this wasn’t occurring in America. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, The OP said: I tend to think that if a police officer killed a suspect of a different ethnicity in the middle east, Asia or Africa precisely no British person on social media would give a f**k. That's a wee shame that you think this is a clever point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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