NotThePars Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, virginton said: The revisionist take of Clinton as an opponent of NATO expansion in the 1990s Wait what? ETA: lol just read the article. People really be saying anything. Edited January 26, 2022 by NotThePars 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 You were directly comparing conditions in Belarus to Ukraine, chump. The fact that you made a roaring c**t of your pea-brained 'analysis' is really not my problem tbh. And I said Ukraine was a bastion of democracy and a utopia of sorts, yeah? No bother. [emoji23]Years upon years of pseudo-intellectual snobbery from you to essentially every poster you interact with on this site says a lot about you more than my supposed “pea-brained” analysis says about myself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 43 minutes ago, SweeperDee said: Years upon years of pseudo-intellectual snobbery from you to essentially every poster you interact with on this site says a lot about you more than my supposed “pea-brained” analysis says about myself. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Significant report doubts that Russia will actually launch a full scale invasion, despite the optics to the East and a significant build up of forces in Belarus. Worth a read. The drumbeat of war seems to be sounding much louder in the West. https://kyivindependent.com/national/center-for-defense-strategies-how-probable-is-large-scale-war-in-ukraine-analysis/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ivo den Bieman said: Significant report doubts that Russia will actually launch a full scale invasion, despite the optics to the East and a significant build up of forces in Belarus. Worth a read. The drumbeat of war seems to be sounding much louder in the West. https://kyivindependent.com/national/center-for-defense-strategies-how-probable-is-large-scale-war-in-ukraine-analysis/ This isn't really inconsistent with most of the more sensible commentary in the West, including the official state views. They're saying that Russia isn't going to try to Annex Ukraine. I haven't seen anyone seriously suggest they are. They do say A large-scale armed escalation in eastern Ukraine with the official entrance of the Russian armed forces into territories currently under occupation is very real. Attempts to break the Ukrainian lines and a general intensification of hostilities are possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Finally some good news about the whole situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Finally some good news about the whole situation. Not so much if you're a Hampstead estate agent. Edited January 26, 2022 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: No change there then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: No change there then. Yeah there's not a whole lot new, other than just a timely reminder that they could be a pain in the arse over on their doorstep too if they wanted to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Good to see the US respecting the sovereignty of a European state; https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/27/nord-stream-2-gas-pipeline-wont-open-if-russia-invades-ukraine-says-us There is no evidence of German leaders actually committing to scrap Nordstream 2 at all, but who cares about that when there's an imperialist bully state on the scene. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, coprolite said: This isn't really inconsistent with most of the more sensible commentary in the West, including the official state views. They're saying that Russia isn't going to try to Annex Ukraine. I haven't seen anyone seriously suggest they are. They do say A large-scale armed escalation in eastern Ukraine with the official entrance of the Russian armed forces into territories currently under occupation is very real. Attempts to break the Ukrainian lines and a general intensification of hostilities are possible. 'Anglosphere' coverage over the past fortnight has been fixated on Russian joint exercises with Belarus - north of Ukraine, not in the east - and the prospect of a contemporary blitzkrieg aimed at Kiev. Not to mention the creation of a 'puppet' Ukrainian government, with candidates being openly labelled as such by Western governments. The West has insisted that Russian forces were behind the eastern Ukraine and Crimea occupations all along which means that they can hardly cry wolf about a merely presence now. So a mere 'intensification of hostilities' in a multi-year war zone in eastern Ukraine will quite rightly be filed in the bin as a non-issue by the public. Edited January 27, 2022 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 37 minutes ago, virginton said: 'Anglosphere' coverage over the past fortnight has been fixated on Russian joint exercises with Belarus - north of Ukraine, not in the east - and the prospect of a contemporary blitzkrieg aimed at Kiev. The West has insisted that Russian forces were behind the eastern Ukraine and Crimea occupations all along which means that they can hardly cry wolf about a merely presence now. So a mere 'intensification of hostilities' in a multi-year war zone in eastern Ukraine will quite rightly be filed in the bin as a non-issue by the public. You must be seeing different stuff to me then. Everything i've seen is about whether Russia will be sending official forces into Donbas to support its unofficial forces and ethnic Russian separatists that it already supports. No suggestion that Kiev is remotely at risk. I'm not saying that what i've seen is representative of the mainstream. I just assume that the TV news will be rubbish so have no idea what Dan and Naga think, for example. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Fighting breaks out in former Soviet Union. No not there. https://eurasianet.org/tajikistan-kyrgyzstan-troops-engaged-in-sustained-gun-battle-along-contested-border 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Biden has warned Ukraine Russia may attack in February. This has major vibes of Western media reporting the location of the suicide attack in Kabul 6 hours before it happened..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) It looks like the Ukrainan government are starting to have some doubts about the USA's plans for their immediate future. Maidan was almost 8 years ago and they haven't seen a single benefit from it unless you enjoy neo nazi paramilitary parades. Edited January 29, 2022 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 The Neocons are briefing against Zelensky now. He should probably avoid cars, planes and large crowds for a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker-T Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 19:08, ICTChris said: Finally some good news about the whole situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I say we use the nuclear option. That’s right. Offer them a trade deal. They’ll back down in no time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Stunned to learn that anonymous US officials are feeding bullshit intel to the press again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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