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[ICTChris]

The SNP aren't a socialist party.  They are basically a continuation of the previous Scottish Executive.  I can't really think of a single policy that either administration have that you couldn't easily imagine being implemented by the other. 

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To think there are a lot of working class Tories in Scotland because they're staunch as f**k . Thick as f**k more like... 

The core of the Tory vote in Scotland is in rural areas - the North East, the Borders, Perthshire.  I don't think that the supposed staunch/Orange vote has any bearing in those areas.  I suppose this might be a factor in places like Glasgow or Central Scotland, I think that it's probably overstated as a driver of votes. 

I've never voted Tory but I might start voting for them after all this though, they are a good laugh.

[Crawford Bridge]

4 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

I've never voted Tory but I might start voting for them after all this though, they are a good laugh.

Aye, it's a great laugh when they disrespect those who couldn't hold the hand of a dying loved one.

Stupid c**t.

[Granny Danger]

16 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

I can't really think of a single policy that either administration have that you couldn't easily imagine being implemented by the other. 

 

Bridge tolls.  Prescription charges.  Tuition fees.

Whilst the devolved government doesn’t have the power, the SNP policy on nuclear is far more radical than Labour’s.

Or to put it another way, you’re talking shite.

[oneteaminglasgow]

48 minutes ago, Ingo ohne Flamingo said:

Yep, that's pretty much my thoughts. Desperate for independence but not the greatest fan of the SNP. Used to be a member but since Sturgeon took over its went from a left of centre to a socialist party. Don't get me wrong I do have socialist values but I'm more on the centre. 

Too many clowns in the SNP nowadays. c***s like John Mason, could go through the list and pick a few out. 

Genuinely interested, what policies of the SNP make you think that they are socialists?

[ICTChris]

Just now, Granny Danger said:

Bridge tolls.  Prescription charges.  Tuition fees.

Whilst the devolved government doesn’t have the power, the SNP policy on nuclear is far more radical than Labour’s.

Or to put it another way, you’re talking shite.

The Labour/Liberal Democrat Executive abolished tuition fees in Scotland, the SNP abolished the Graduate Endowment, which you paid back after you graduated.

I don't think it's particularly hard to imagine a Lib-Lab Exec abolishing bridge tolls or prescription charges, especially after the Welsh and Northern Irish governments did so.  These were pretty minor changes - a rough estimate of the cost of them is £98m or 0.5% of the total Scottish Government spending that year, if you include all government spending in Scotland then it's about 0.17%.

[invergowrie arab]

There isn't anything more boring than people who "support Indy but don't agree with everything the SNP stand for" as if they are some sort of free-thinking political libero whos complex and interesting world view can't be contained in a political manifesto.

Most people vote for the least shit option mate.

[Mr Heliums]

23 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

The Labour/Liberal Democrat Executive abolished tuition fees in Scotland, the SNP abolished the Graduate Endowment, which you paid back after you graduated.

I don't think it's particularly hard to imagine a Lib-Lab Exec abolishing bridge tolls or prescription charges, 

Not hard to imagine unless you take yourself back to the time when the SNP were implementing these policies. Labour were still all aboard Johann Lamont's 'you can't get something for nothing' bus. Maybe they'd have changed their minds by now – but who'd trust them if they were told to do otherwise by UK Labour?

One policy I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have implemented is ending the right to buy.  Labour administrations north and south of the border have hedged on this issue for 25 years. The SNP ended it in their first majority administration.

 

[ICTChris]

Just now, Mr Heliums said:

Not hard to imagine unless you take yourself back to the time when the SNP were implementing these policies. Labour were still all aboard Johann Lamont's 'you can't get something for nothing' bus. Maybe they'd have changed their minds by now – but who'd trust them if they were told to do otherwise by UK Labour?

One policy I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have implemented is ending the right to buy.  Labour administrations north and south of the border have hedged on this issue for 25 years. The SNP ended it in their first majority administration.

You are probably right on the right-to-buy, although Labour have abolished it in Wales.  

[Jacksgranda]

1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

The Labour/Liberal Democrat Executive abolished tuition fees in Scotland, the SNP abolished the Graduate Endowment, which you paid back after you graduated.

I don't think it's particularly hard to imagine a Lib-Lab Exec abolishing bridge tolls or prescription charges, especially after the Welsh and Northern Irish governments did so.  These were pretty minor changes - a rough estimate of the cost of them is £98m or 0.5% of the total Scottish Government spending that year, if you include all government spending in Scotland then it's about 0.17%.

I think I read somewhere that abolishing prescriptions charges was more cost effective than continuing to charge for them and/or administering a means testing of exemptions and the 6 monthly/yearly payments system.

Although I think it was mooted that a £1 charge  per prescription be introduced, with exemptions. Again, it was thought that this would cost more than it would take in.

[Jacksgranda]

41 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

You are probably right on the right-to-buy, although Labour have abolished it in Wales.  

It hasn't been abolished here but they are now so expensibe to buy most don't, or if they can afford to, buy outwith the social housing market.

[NotThePars]

1 hour ago, invergowrie arab said:

There isn't anything more boring than people who "support Indy but don't agree with everything the SNP stand for" as if they are some sort of free-thinking political libero whos complex and interesting world view can't be contained in a political manifesto.

Most people vote for the least shit option mate.

If those people actually spread their vote around then fair enough but moaning about the SNP yet voting for them every time is quite funny. As if the party gives a shit about your personal beliefs in the party if they get your vote every time.

[ICTChris]

25 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

I think I read somewhere that abolishing prescriptions charges was more cost effective than continuing to charge for them and/or administering a means testing of exemptions and the 6 monthly/yearly payments system.

Although I think it was mooted that a £1 charge  per prescription be introduced, with exemptions. Again, it was thought that this would cost more than it would take in.

Yeah, I've heard that argument made - it's perfectly plausible.

[Granny Danger]

16 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Yeah, I've heard that argument made - it supports my position so it's perfectly plausible.

FTFY

[Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier]

15 hours ago, lichtgilphead said:

My 18yo nephew in Portsmouth identifies  with the "Hard Right" wing of the Tories. 

On the cuntishness scale of 1-10, he is a definite 12.

His last 13 tweets have all supported Dominic Cummings. At times, I despair.

However, as he won't have a vote in indyref2, I cannot be bothered putting him right.

Surely, anyone that still supports the Tories in Scotland must now be reconsidering?

He sounds like a frustrated homosexual.

[NotThePars]

Cool!

[Empty It]

Who are the known Tories on P&B? Would like to avoid at all costs.

[Dunning1874]

11 hours ago, Ingo ohne Flamingo said:

since Sturgeon took over its went from a left of centre to a socialist party.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

Gunther [emoji23]

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Who are the known Tories on P&B? Would like to avoid at all costs.

Lex

I'm Rodger

Malky (or whatever alias he is these days)

 

Sooky used to be I think.

 

[oneteaminglasgow]

1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

@Lex
@I'm Rodger
@Sooky used to be I think.

I don’t think Rodger is actually a Tory, although he does say he’s one.

I’m sure he posted a list of his actual political beliefs before (maybe around the last election) and had it pointed out that somewhere in the region of none of them fitted in with Tory policy...