DukDukGoose Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: Yeah, because we allowed him to be creative rather than trying to shoehorn him rigidly into a position. Yip. Tam Courts is not going to do that in his first top level managerial role. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: Yip. Tam Courts is not going to do that in his first top level managerial role. Granted, but he'll be gone at some point you'd reckon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: Creatively? Aye, he is. United have a solid team with an internationalist striker who will thrive on a bit of half decent service. No, we don't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, ArabFC said: No, we don't. Yes we do. Not for this level, but you can't argue that we put in a consistent level of performance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, ArabFC said: No, we don't. I think you do with players like Siegrist, Mulgrew, Edwards, Smith, Fuchs, Butcher (Clogger though he is), Clark & Shankland you've got 8 players there that would get into most of the bottom 6 sides teams. Add a bit of creativity to that and you should be more than fine. Unless your manager has no experience of actually managing a professional team and is a complete and utter fraud who likes to utilise shitey middle management talk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: I think you do with players like Siegrist, Mulgrew, Edwards, Smith, Fuchs, Butcher (Clogger though he is), Clark & Shankland you've got 8 players there that would get into most of the bottom 6 sides teams. Maybe 4, at a push 5 of those perform at a decent level most weeks. It's not enough, although I don't like to single out the players who aren't consistently good enough. But the major issue possibly isn't the playing staff, lacking as it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, ArabianKnight said: I'm sure our widely touted youth core will be the answer to all our problems. FTFY. Now you're speaking Tam Courts' language. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 49 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: I think you do with players like Siegrist, Mulgrew, Edwards, Smith, Fuchs, Butcher (Clogger though he is), Clark & Shankland you've got 8 players there that would get into most of the bottom 6 sides teams. Add a bit of creativity to that and you should be more than fine. Unless your manager has no experience of actually managing a professional team and is a complete and utter fraud who likes to utilise shitey middle management talk. You're massively over rating Edwards, Smith, Butcher and Clark, IMO. Fuchs probably needs the right system/role to thrive too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, RandomGuy. said: You're massively over rating Edwards, Smith, Butcher and Clark, IMO. Fuchs probably needs the right system/role to thrive too. Maybe Edwards and Butcher, but I reckon whilst Smith is average, RB is a weak position for many teams and I think Clark is just a very good player tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Ludo*1 said: Maybe Edwards and Butcher, but I reckon whilst Smith is average, RB is a weak position for many teams and I think Clark is just a very good player tbh. I like Smith and Clark, but they're ~average bottom half players at best, and I'm not sure they'd "walk" into many bottom half sides. Is Smith better than Rooney/Tait/O'Donnell/Devlin? Arguably the 3 sides he gets into are United, Dundee and County. Clark probably the same, and even then hes probably used here and there rather than a cast iron starter for any of the three. Siegrist is arguably the best keeper in the league, and Shankland is quality. Mulgrew is still to be seen but should stroll a lot of games, and Fuchs is maybe mid-table, but the rest isn't in any way capable of keeping United up. They're absolutely fucked if Siegrist leaves, just as they would've been last season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: I like Smith and Clark, but they're ~average bottom half players at best, and I'm not sure they'd "walk" into many bottom half sides. Is Smith better than Rooney/Tait/O'Donnell/Devlin? Arguably the 3 sides he gets into are United, Dundee and County. Clark probably the same, and even then hes probably used here and there rather than a cast iron starter for any of the three. Siegrist is arguably the best keeper in the league, and Shankland is quality. Mulgrew is still to be seen but should stroll a lot of games, and Fuchs is maybe mid-table, but the rest isn't in any way capable of keeping United up. They're absolutely fucked if Siegrist leaves, just as they would've been last season. Fair enough, that's quite a solid argument. I'd argue that I'd have Smith ahead of a couple of that 4 (Tait especially) or at least in the mix with those 4 that you mentioned, but totally get it. Good points; well made. United are fucked. Edited August 2, 2021 by Ludo*1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 And Smith isn't even the best RB at the club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 You’re feeling miserable about your club and along comes the boring cunt. You don’t deserve that. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Fifespud said: You’re feeling miserable about your club and along comes the boring c**t. You don’t deserve that. I tried my best to cheer them up tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldie1980 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 hes utter gash Aberdeen fans still wildly underrating Stewart. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Baldie1980 said: hes utter gash You may as well have just underlined my post m8. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldie1980 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 he has had his moments but more than often he has been utterly pish,be better down a league tbf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 [emoji23] There's a reason he looked great at Dundee and then a few months at Killie.Possibly because both clubs gave him a free role and used him properly unlike your ex-manager. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardy83 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Stole this from twitter, class whoever made it up 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Some cracking opinions on here. Anybody with a modicum of creativity and delivery would improve this team ten fold by just being on the pitch. Greg Stewart would be a good signing for us. Smith, rotten. Cant cross, can't stop a cross and when he does get forward he rarely actually passes forwards. That may well be because we get players forward at a speed that makes evolution look neck breaking, but even in the Championship he was bog standard average. Maybe in a 442 with a winger in front hes improve, but I can't see it being that much. And we don't play with wingers either. We are lacking a focal player, a ball player, a creator to carry the ball and pick a pass to link midfield to the forwards. We have lacked that for years - longer than the entire time we've had a football agent running the show. We also need pace out wide and up front, we are so fucking slow. We have no outball when under pressure and teams can press us without the worry of being caught on the break. Either that or a 7 foot 6 eastern European brick shithouse who can hold the ball in while we get bodies forward. But thats not the modern, Thomas Courts style im guessing. And I want 3 at the back in the bin too. With this squad, anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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