The Dundee United Thread 22/23

[invergowrie arab]

1 minute ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said:

Enquiries made about Shaun Byrne, Dundee looking for a small fee.

He's been told he can go elsewhere, nobody is paying a fee for him 

[Bigmouth Strikes Again]

1 minute ago, invergowrie arab said:

He's been told he can go elsewhere, nobody is paying a fee for him 

Don't shoot the messenger, something to do with his contract.

Thank you.

[Twinkle]

If shite like Shaun Bryne is what we are looking at, we would be as well just closing the doors now

[Mark Connolly]

4 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

So no likelihood of the DM that everyone knows we need other than those in charge of recruitment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62679631

While Asghar will be at his desk "with a pizza and a can of Irn-Bru" late into the evening on deadline day next Thursday, he does not expect United to do any more business this summer.

I don't buy that tbh.

No way Tony only has one pizza, he'll have multiple sides and at least a couple of large stuffed crusts

[Granny Danger]

Just now, Mark Connolly said:

I don't buy that tbh.

No way Tony only has one pizza, he'll have multiple sides and at least a couple of large stuffed crusts

Aye it’s a pizza nonsense.

[Mark Connolly]

1 minute ago, Granny Danger said:

Aye it’s a pizza nonsense.

[Zetterlund]

Code for a dual nationality Scottish-Italian midfielder imo.

Pierluigi McSporran incoming.

[Granny Danger]

8 minutes ago, Zetterlund said:

Code for a dual nationality Scottish-Italian midfielder imo.

Pierluigi McSporran incoming.

Juan Pablo McFuchs.

 

[sergie's no1 fan]

17 minutes ago, Zetterlund said:

Code for a dual nationality Scottish-Italian midfielder imo.

Pierluigi McSporran incoming.

Naefuckin Chancetelli? 

[mishtergrolsch]

1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:

Juan Pablo McFuchs.

 

Maybe the arrival of Giancarlo Fuckthederrywankerinis?

[Fletchers Saucy Manbun]

Smoke and Mirrors from Asghar, trying not to look desperate to potential signings.

No way we are surviving half a season with farts in the wind protecting the back four.

[Fifespud]

And a roasting from Celtic to come. Cheers Fundee United, you never fail to amuse.

[Lex]

And a roasting from Celtic to come. Cheers Fundee United, you never fail to amuse.

Got to admire the brass neck here. Most would keep their head down after a pumping by Ayr United on national TV, but not Dundee fans.
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[mishtergrolsch]

Jack Ross in the paper last night basically saying we don't need a defensive midfielder as long as the rest of the team ups its game when we lose the ball. And that good defensive midfielders that can pass, tackle and be creative play at top level.

But if we don't have players capable of tackling in midfield at all, which is the case (maybe except Sibbald who can't get a game at the moment), then no matter how well the team reacts to losing the ball we're not going to get the ball back very easily.

Sounds to me a bit like he's either not getting more dosh or he genuinely believes that we don't need a "destroyer" which is terrifying considering our midfield tends to include Harkes, Levitt and McGrath who are not known for their defensive abilities.

[Kempes]

I have just read that article and I would be worried if I was a United fan. Jack seems to think his talented midfielders can keep possession and pass teams off the pitch. It doesn’t work like that unless you have the best players in the world. Possession stats mean nothing. In fact, as St Mirren are showing, sometimes the more your opponents have the ball, the better. Good transitions, or breakaways, lead to goals, even if you only have 25% to 35% possession. Teams will let United keep possession as they don’t do much with the ball.

[mishtergrolsch]

8 minutes ago, Kempes said:

I have just read that article and I would be worried if I was a United fan. Jack seems to think his talented midfielders can keep possession and pass teams off the pitch. It doesn’t work like that unless you have the best players in the world. Possession stats mean nothing. In fact, as St Mirren are showing, sometimes the more your opponents have the ball, the better. Good transitions, or breakaways, lead to goals, even if you only have 25% to 35% possession. Teams will let United keep possession as they don’t do much with the ball.

Suggesting that top teams, who you'd expect are managed by better tacticians, play defensive midfielders but teams at lower levels dont need defensive midfielders if the rest of the team try harder seems jarring to me.

[Mark Connolly]

4 minutes ago, mishtergrolsch said:

Suggesting that top teams, who you'd expect are managed by better tacticians, play defensive midfielders but teams at lower levels dont need defensive midfielders if the rest of the team try harder seems jarring to me.

Exactly.

Busquets was a baller, but his first job in that Barca team was to break up the opposition play, and get it to Xavi or Iniesta

[wastecoatwilly]

19 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

Exactly.

Busquets was a baller, but his first job in that Barca team was to break up the opposition play, and get it to Xavi or Iniesta

Yes getting rid of Butcher was a mistake.

[Coventry Saint]

4 minutes ago, mishtergrolsch said:

Jack Ross in the paper last night basically saying we don't need a defensive midfielder as long as the rest of the team ups its game when we lose the ball. And that good defensive midfielders that can pass, tackle and be creative play at top level.

But if we don't have players capable of tackling in midfield at all, which is the case (maybe except Sibbald who can't get a game at the moment), then no matter how well the team reacts to losing the ball we're not going to get the ball back very easily.

Sounds to me a bit like he's either not getting more dosh or he genuinely believes that we don't need a "destroyer" which is terrifying considering our midfield tends to include Harkes, Levitt and McGrath who are not known for their defensive abilities.

While you're correct to say McGrath wasn't known for his defensive abilities, his workrate always did stand out for us. He was a phenomenally hard working player and always tracked back diligently. He wasn't always picked as a number 10 but his effort was always beyond reproach.

It was odd seeing him being so anonymous last weekend.

[Granny Danger]

1 hour ago, mishtergrolsch said:

Jack Ross in the paper last night basically saying we don't need a defensive midfielder as long as the rest of the team ups its game when we lose the ball. And that good defensive midfielders that can pass, tackle and be creative play at top level.

But if we don't have players capable of tackling in midfield at all, which is the case (maybe except Sibbald who can't get a game at the moment), then no matter how well the team reacts to losing the ball we're not going to get the ball back very easily.

Sounds to me a bit like he's either not getting more dosh or he genuinely believes that we don't need a "destroyer" which is terrifying considering our midfield tends to include Harkes, Levitt and McGrath who are not known for their defensive abilities.

We need a good defensive midfielder in the Fuchs/Butcher mould.  If Ross cannot see that then he’s a fucking idiot and the wrong guy for the job.