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8 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said:

some Bots are made for smacking!

Oh. Can foresee an incoming Kenneth here.

A wee bit something extra in your tea this morning pal? 😃

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8 minutes ago, jimbaxters said:

Oh. Can foresee an incoming Kenneth here.

A wee bit something extra in your tea this morning pal? 😃

Carry On Cleo 1964. | Carry on cleo, Make em laugh, British comedy

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3 hours ago, jimbaxters said:

Why do the club have to be punished please?

Their representative on the management committee abused his position to enable them to win the league. I am willing to bet that he did so with the full knowledge of the Talbot committee, and if that is correct then the club should be punished.

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4 minutes ago, The Informer said:

Their representative on the management committee abused his position to enable them to win the league. I am willing to bet that he did so with the full knowledge of the Talbot committee, and if that is correct then the club should be punished.

There's a narrative being drawn up here by the more rabid keyboard warriors, that you are guilty because someone with a loose brain cell and a keyboard says so.

The independent inquiry should ascertain whether or not anything untoward did happen. Until they do, there is a basic principle that abounds in the UK of being innocent until proven guilty. I realise that might be a strange concept for some of the folk on here, but that is where any independent inquiry will also start out from.

I highlighted your post because because it was the last one, but you're just as culpable as everybody else on here with their ill judged mud slinging. It does you no favours.

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4 minutes ago, GB65 said:

IMO Talbot should be stripped of their league title

 

Bully for you, am sure the independent inquiry will take note of that, and probably contact you in due course for any other grey areas they may be considering.

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9 minutes ago, The Informer said:

Their representative on the management committee abused his position to enable them to win the league. I am willing to bet that he did so with the full knowledge of the Talbot committee, and if that is correct then the club should be punished.

He made a suggestion. Unfortunate that it involved a vested interest but no arms were twisted, by the looks of it.

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24 minutes ago, The Informer said:

Their representative on the management committee abused his position to enable them to win the league. I am willing to bet that he did so with the full knowledge of the Talbot committee, and if that is correct then the club should be punished.

Did he hold the rest of the Management Committee hostage somewhere with a loaded gun pointed at their heads or something?

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11 minutes ago, TFW said:

There's a narrative being drawn up here by the more rabid keyboard warriors, that you are guilty because someone with a loose brain cell and a keyboard says so.

The independent inquiry should ascertain whether or not anything untoward did happen. Until they do, there is a basic principle that abounds in the UK of being innocent until proven guilty. I realise that might be a strange concept for some of the folk on here, but that is where any independent inquiry will also start out from.

I highlighted your post because because it was the last one, but you're just as culpable as everybody else on here with their ill judged mud slinging. It does you no favours.

I take evidence and judge it on my own terms, nobody else’s, and post my opinion.  Your position of moral arbiter is commendable, but using your premise,  then everyone is entitled to an opinion on a public forum. 

I have viewed the emails and they are damning, that is my opinion. 

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3 minutes ago, santheman said:

Did he hold the rest of the Management Committee hostage somewhere with a loaded gun pointed at their heads or something?

I don’t know that part of the story, sorry.

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I don't think Talbot should be punished all I think should happen is the guy in question should be relieved of any formal duties for Talbot if he doesn't and stays on the Talbot board then teams should motion that no officials from Talbot will be allowed to be voted onto the WOSFL board because they cant be trusted that's enough punishment in my eyes 

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Everyone has there opinion no one is wrong or right at the moment . my opinion is mr Chisholm shud not of privately emailed mr fyfe ,this shud have been done at a meeting considering they had dates for 3 then there was plenty time for it to be discussed. my issue is that mr chisholms club would be the club to benefit from a change to the null and void so he shud not of been involved. the east didn’t put a club forward and they won’t be punished in my opinion, as this was last year of west of Scotland juniors then there could of been no punishment if we had null and void the league and do not take a Scottish cup place.
My opinion because of the difference in amount of games played by all 16 teams null and void was best way forward would auchinleck have won the league I don’t know but they did look well placed after 16 games but if you look at Kilwinning after 16 games they would of had 39 compared to auchinlecks 41 who after 16 games would of thought the buffs would drop as many points as they did in next 9 games maybe auchinleck might have dropped more less or the same we will never know.
That’s my reason for null and void and no Scottish place to our league

End of rant

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Everyone has there opinion no one is wrong or right at the moment . my opinion is mr Chisholm shud not of privately emailed mr fyfe ,this shud have been done at a meeting considering they had dates for 3 then there was plenty time for it to be discussed. my issue is that mr chisholms club would be the club to benefit from a change to the null and void so he shud not of been involved. the east didn’t put a club forward and they won’t be punished in my opinion, as this was last year of west of Scotland juniors then there could of been no punishment if we had null and void the league and do not take a Scottish cup place.
My opinion because of the difference in amount of games played by all 16 teams null and void was best way forward would auchinleck have won the league I don’t know but they did look well placed after 16 games but if you look at Kilwinning after 16 games they would of had 39 compared to auchinlecks 41 who after 16 games would of thought the buffs would drop as many points as they did in next 9 games maybe auchinleck might have dropped more less or the same we will never know.
That’s my reason for null and void and no Scottish place to our league

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To be honest I wouldn't have complained at a null and void decision as most of the players and fans would have been the same. But the mitigating factor is the Scottish cup place and with that at stake is colin not allowed to ask the question? If any other teams were in Talbots position they should have asked the question irrespective if they had a representative on the sjfa board, the east team should have put their case forward aswell imo

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35 minutes ago, Glenny lamp said:

I am hearing that certain colin chisholm as just been voted players player of the year. Congratulations Colin

He also voted for Henry Dummigan for Cumnock citizen of the year😂😂😂😂😂

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To be honest I wouldn't have complained at a null and void decision as most of the players and fans would have been the same. But the mitigating factor is the Scottish cup place and with that at stake is colin not allowed to ask the question? If any other teams were in Talbots position they should have asked the question irrespective if they had a representative on the sjfa board, the east team should have put their case forward aswell imo

Why is the Scottish cup place a mitigating factor at the end of the day hopefully this is a once in a lifetime situation, with us moving to new league then no places in the Scottish would be a good thing, no team getting the advantage of extra income, with 38 league games next season you wouldn’t want teams falling behind in games and we dont actually know if and when next season will start.

if all teams had played similar amount of games and had played the same teams then I would defo agree to finding a winner a good thing but as I said after 16 games talbot only had 2 points more than Kilwinning and in the 16 games it’s not like they played same teams at home or away so for me null and void was the sensible decision but that’s just my opinion

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3 hours ago, GB65 said:

IMO Talbot should be stripped of their league title

 

As been pointed out before you moron the manager and team don't want the title as they didn't get the chance to win it on the park now sneak of back to the amateurs 

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The falling behind in league games because of involvement in the senior Scottish Cup is somewhat of a nebulous argument. Yes, it has affected the Talbot in the past, but certainly not in the last two seasons, it seems to have spurred them on to greater levels of consistency playing against a much higher standard team on a regular basis. That's not to decry the level of opposition we play in the League, but last season we played Cove Rangers twice, promoted to SPFL, Fraserburgh away - finished third in Highland League, Ayr United and Hearts. This season we've played the three highest teams left in the Scottish Cup in each round, Kelty away, Cove Rangers promoted to League 1 this season, and Arbroath - they got a very lucky draw at Beechwood. Playing teams of that calibre on a regular basis has no doubt had a beneficial effect on the club.

We wouldn't be able to play them without that hard won right of entry into said Cup without winning the Super League or Junior Cup, so why would anybody wish to give that right up? Especially as it's likely to be the last season of it this year. Look at how the likes of Bonnyrigg moved on after  a massive pay day at Easter Road, and that is the genuine benefit of the Scottish Cup. Greater calibre of opponents, and financial rewards.

The argument about points after the first sixteen games is clutching at straws, sorry. You don't win league titles when you ship six goals per game in successive weeks as the Buffs did against Talbot and Hurlford. I think every one who has seen Talbot play this season can not fail to have been impressed by the strength in depth we have, and that would undoubtedly have taken us over the line again.

The last season of the Cup for Junior clubs. It would be good to see two representatives from our region, and I think some way ought to be found to accommodate a n other team in it. As we are already in the Cup, and I am more than confident we still will be after the independent inquiry, I think some kind of formula could be worked out between the remaining teams - minus ourselves - to get another entrant?

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6 minutes ago, fb4 said:

As been pointed out before you moron the manager and team don't want the title as they didn't get the chance to win it on the park now sneak of back to the amateurs. But I respect you as human being and your right to an opinion. 

There fixed that for you.

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1 hour ago, TFW said:

 

The last season of the Cup for Junior clubs. It would be good to see two representatives from our region, and I think some way ought to be found to accommodate a n other team in it. As we are already in the Cup, and I am more than confident we still will be after the independent inquiry, I think some kind of formula could be worked out between the remaining teams - minus ourselves - to get another entrant?

Are next seasons East Region,  North Region and Scottish Junior cup winners not getting access into 2021/2 Scottish senior cup then?:unsure2:

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