Johnstoun Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, RiG said: Why did Dunfermline (and the other clubs mentioned) think it would be unfair to distribute monies to clubs based on their current standings and what would the difference be between the two motions in terms of financial loss / gain to someone like Dunfermline? Dunfermline would gain about £50k, ICT would lose about £175k If the season is voided it's wiping the results from the records, why would you get a prize for something you'd voted to cancel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Johnstoun said: Dunfermline would gain about £50k, ICT would lose about £175k If the season is voided it's wiping the results from the records, why would you get a prize for something you'd voted to cancel. Cally wanted to null and void. But they didn't want to give up their cash for 2nd so they proposed/supported a measure that makes 0 sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, virginton said: Erm, they did distribute monies based on the current standings: that's what they got when they voted in favour of calling the season. It seems that Inverness on the other hand wanted to have their cake and eat it: null and voiding the season in terms of relegation but divvying up the money according to the, err, null and void league table regardless. Good to see that the respectable majority of Championship clubs didn't stand for Inverness' pish and put them firmly back in their box. 4 minutes ago, parsforlife said: It makes no sense to call the season null and void yet distribute prize money based on ppg. You either apply it fully or not at all. Its clear if we went null and void that anyone in the bottom half would want equal distribution. We're probably the ones who financially it would make the biggest difference to. Our total tickets sold for the season with rovers and hearts instead of partick and dundee united is probably in the region of 10000. That's a whole lot of cash. Obviously the prize money we'd get for this season would remain unchanged. 3 minutes ago, Johnstoun said: Dunfermline would gain about £50k, ICT would lose about £175k If the season is voided it's wiping the results from the records, why would you get a prize for something you'd voted to cancel. Ah right so it was the null and void part that was the key difference between the proposals then (and the knock on financial effects that would come from that)? I've quickly lost interest in this saga so playing catch up after the statements started flying. Edited May 11, 2020 by RiG 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Speroni*1 said: Aberdeen the latest to confirm they'll vote for an inquiry: “We reiterate our belief that an independent inquiry is the only way of drawing a line under what has become a highly damaging episode for the whole of Scottish football. “There is a distressing lack of confidence and trust between the SPFL leadership and many of the clubs, and it is hard to see a resolution, far less a reconciliation, without some form of impartial and objective assessment of the many claims and counter-claims. “Some of those involved will be prepared to make information known in confidence through an independent inquiry, which they would not otherwise be willing to disclose. The SPFL will be able to provide details of the contractual consequences for the SPFL of different possible outcomes, which they have felt unable to share with members, and therefore the opportunity to obtain confirmation that their proposal was the only practicable option available. “Importantly, there will be the opportunity for the SPFL’s Chief Executive and Legal Advisor to be cleared of the serious allegations that have been made. “It is difficult to see how these outcomes could be achieved in a different way.” https://www.afc.co.uk/2020/05/11/club-statement-monday-11th-may/ Well it's dead easy to make a statement like this when you know there's a snowball in Hell's chance of the independent inquiry being voted through. Moral high ground claimed at no extra cost. Such a lovely club that Aberdeen. Really nice people every one of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Stuart milne is a fud. I didn't need to read the latest ramblings of aberdeen who have been on the wrong side of pretty much every major vote to know that but i feel it needs repeated regularly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 What time is the vote tomorrow lads? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, parsforlife said: Stuart milne is a fud. I didn't need to read the latest ramblings of aberdeen who have been on the wrong side of pretty much every major vote to know that but i feel it needs repeated regularly. What about David Cormack? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Such a lovely club that Aberdeen. Really nice people every one of them. Thank you. Happy Gothenburg day to you too. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arabdelic Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 56 minutes ago, NorthBank said: You got to love all these statements. Clyde are having a go at self-interest while at the same time stating they would not accept a 14-14-14 or 14-14-16 which would 'significantly disadvantage' Clyde. Do none of these writers know what hypocrisy means? Clyde are agreeing with you about hypocrisy. All clubs are voting in self interest including their own. They say why they voted the way they did. He is having a go at the clubs who have been lashing out at others voting in self interest without acknowledging they are themselves. They only 2 clubs who have pretended to be acting for the greater good are Rangers 'governance of the game' and Gardiner at Inverness 'didn't want to relegate teams' These are the ones for the watching. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanhourjoe Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, parsforlife said: Cally wanted to null and void. But they didn't want to give up their cash for 2nd so they proposed/supported a measure that makes 0 sense I believe they had came out before the first vote, as saying they could give up the second place prize money if there was no relegation. Which would be a much bigger hit. And possibly see clubs go bust. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Juanhourjoe said: I believe they had came out before the first vote, as saying they could give up the second place prize money if there was no relegation. Which would be a much bigger hit. And possibly see clubs go bust. Then the message from five Championship clubs that they'd seek to split the prize money equally in a null and void scenario could not possibly have been viewed as a 'threat' by ICT, as they claimed in their statement yesterday. It's almost as if Scott Gardiner has been talking an enormous power of shite from the start and got called on it. Edited May 11, 2020 by vikingTON 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bohemian said: What time is the vote tomorrow lads? Statement to follow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, Bohemian said: What time is the vote tomorrow lads? Dundee have to cast their vote by 6pm tomorrow and will have until Friday at 2pm to change their mind. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanhourjoe Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, virginton said: Then the message from five Championship clubs that they'd seek to split the prize money equally in a null and void scenario could not possibly have been viewed as a 'threat' by ICT, as they claimed in their statement yesterday. It's almost as if Scott Gardiner has been talking an enormous power of shite from the start and got called on it. Don't think he meant specifically a threat to ICT. It was said in the statement after the first vote. The threat was withholding money till Doncaster had got what he wanted. The caleys argument then was payments could be made then. And deciding on titles, promotion, possible league reconstruction could be talked about after. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Juanhourjoe said: Don't think he meant specifically a threat to ICT. It was said in the statement after the first vote. The threat was withholding money till Doncaster had got what he wanted. The caleys argument then was payments could be made then. And deciding on titles, promotion, possible league reconstruction could be talked about after. This is from the Whatsapp conversation, makes it pretty clear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 SG- We want null and void. SPFL - Ok, So 1/10th split for everyone then? SG- Stop bulling me. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 "till Doncaster got what he wanted" Member clubs sit on the Board ffs. They agreed the proposal put forward. It's made to look like Blofeld is running the SPFL from some remote island head quarters in an old volcano. Absolute garbage. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, parsforlife said: SG- We want what the Glasgow Rangers want SPFL - Ok, So 1/10th split for everyone then? SG- Stop bulling me. FTFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, welshbairn said: This is from the Whatsapp conversation, makes it pretty clear. Do they have recordings of the alleged "bullying" or are we just taking the word of a collection of club reps collectively clutching their pearls in a group chat? Edited May 11, 2020 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 OR RANGERS - any chance of a loan? SPFL - maybe. let's see your up to date accounts so we can make a fiscally sound judgement. RANGERS - Stop bullying us 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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