Andy groundhopper Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 What does infrequent mean ? Pointless putting lights up and then hardly using them. All that outlay for possibly 1 Scottish Cup game per season - come on locals,buy some blackout curtains eh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpollok Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Andy groundhopper said: What does infrequent mean ? Pointless putting lights up and then hardly using them. All that outlay for possibly 1 Scottish Cup game per season - come on locals,buy some blackout curtains eh Look at the teams in WOSL who have flood lights already, and look at how many games they have played this season with flood lights. Talbot I think have played one game this season and they have been involved in more cup games than most at this level. I think that will easily explain what infrequent means ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny*******Powers Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Andy groundhopper said: What does infrequent mean ? Pointless putting lights up and then hardly using them. All that outlay for possibly 1 Scottish Cup game per season - come on locals,buy some blackout curtains eh Maybe as a gesture of goodwill Pollok should offer the local householders a voucher to buy some 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile E Coyote Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, superpollok said: Look at the teams in WOSL who have flood lights already, and look at how many games they have played this season with flood lights. Talbot I think have played one game this season and they have been involved in more cup games than most at this level. I think that will easily explain what infrequent means ! We also used them a couple of times early in the season to have 7.30 pm KO's when other teams without lights had earlier KO times 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Andy groundhopper said: What does infrequent mean ? Pointless putting lights up and then hardly using them. All that outlay for possibly 1 Scottish Cup game per season - come on locals,buy some blackout curtains eh Also needed for promotion to the LL and beyond. The LL isn't the most enticing prospect right now for a lot of people on this subforum but give it a few more years and that will sort itself out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Grimm Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Floodlights will surely come into there own now for teams left in cups etc to play catch up on league ties. Darvel game tonight be the first of a few for them you would think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 7 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Also needed for promotion to the LL and beyond. The LL isn't the most enticing prospect right now for a lot of people on this subforum but give it a few more years and that will sort itself out. Not just for promotion either. LL fixtures on a Saturday are 3pm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Brother Grimm said: Floodlights will surely come into there own now for teams left in cups etc to play catch up on league ties. Darvel game tonight be the first of a few for them you would think. Was at Darvel last week v Camby. 1.30 ko but the lights came on at 2pm as it was a grim day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, The Mantis said: Was at Darvel last week v Camby. 1.30 ko but the lights came on at 2pm as it was a grim day. It's a good point. Even 13.30 kick offs aren't sufficient for light on some winter days. I've seen early kick off cup games going to ET which are borderline unplayable by the end. And as the poster above noted, the LL will be a great league to watch in 4-5 years. If the Scottish Football Pyramid was shook like a snowglobe, there's no chance it would be in the current format. It will take a few years to correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundHoppingBear Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said: It's a good point. Even 13.30 kick offs aren't sufficient for light on some winter days. I've seen early kick off cup games going to ET which are borderline unplayable by the end. And as the poster above noted, the LL will be a great league to watch in 4-5 years. If the Scottish Football Pyramid was shook like a snowglobe, there's no chance it would be in the current format. It will take a few years to correct. The pyramid system at the moment makes it so hard to judge where teams and players are in their development. As you say in a few years it will correct itself and I think the landscape of Scottish football will be completely different. Exciting times for a lot of clubs at that level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 15 hours ago, superpollok said: Look at the teams in WOSL who have flood lights already, and look at how many games they have played this season with flood lights. Talbot I think have played one game this season and they have been involved in more cup games than most at this level. I think that will easily explain what infrequent means ! Isn't it a case that you'll need to use them during winter in the second half of games if you KO at 2.30? In the EoS, the KO all year round is 2.30/3.00, clubs without lights are allowed to move KO forward to 1.30, but if you have lights you use them, plus you will be scheduled midweek games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Burnieman said: Isn't it a case that you'll need to use them during winter in the second half of games if you KO at 2.30? In the EoS, the KO all year round is 2.30/3.00, clubs without lights are allowed to move KO forward to 1.30, but if you have lights you use them, plus you will be scheduled midweek games. Our winter games kick off at 1.30pm, this Saturday is the last of them and we revert to 2pm at the start of February. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, glensmad said: Our winter games kick off at 1.30pm, this Saturday is the last of them and we revert to 2pm at the start of February. Surely that will change as clubs get floodlights? one of the good things about the EoS, in the Premier in particular where there's only one club without lights, you know the KO time rarely alters throughout the season. 1.30pm KO's are awful and clash with TV games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpollok Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 37 minutes ago, Burnieman said: Isn't it a case that you'll need to use them during winter in the second half of games if you KO at 2.30? In the EoS, the KO all year round is 2.30/3.00, clubs without lights are allowed to move KO forward to 1.30, but if you have lights you use them, plus you will be scheduled midweek games. yeah probably need to use in winter if mid afternoon kick offs, but they are all way before a 10pm condition of planning that was mentioned earlier in the thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 59 minutes ago, Burnieman said: Surely that will change as clubs get floodlights? one of the good things about the EoS, in the Premier in particular where there's only one club without lights, you know the KO time rarely alters throughout the season. 1.30pm KO's are awful and clash with TV games. The clubs with floodlights have the option to request a later kick off from the Fixtures Secretary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 11 hours ago, The Mantis said: Was at Darvel last week v Camby. 1.30 ko but the lights came on at 2pm as it was a grim day. In Darvel, get away! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 12 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: In Darvel, get away! A darkness not even a floodlight can chase away 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South_Pride Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Pollok will be playing an absolute max 3 times a week, and not always at home. So a worst case scenario for anyone worried about lights would be 2hrs a week. I was amazed how little light spillage there was at the game in Meadow Park in September. If we can get something similar installed I doubt anyone will have a problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesel1994 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 9 hours ago, South_Pride said: Pollok will be playing an absolute max 3 times a week, and not always at home. Very rarely will a team play 3 times a week - which is three times in a seven day spell (Saturday to Friday). Any time a club has had such a backlog the games will be in late April and May so could be done without floodlights anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkcircus Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 In the lowland league there are midweek matches every week, a lot more common than in the wosfl Its not light spillage that would be the issue, it’ll be the far lights aiming directly into the lower flats, ground and 1st floor But the park was there before the flats so can’t really be complaining about football being played. if the council were to deny them lights they’d be stopping them for doing business as all EOS prem teams have light and I can see the license bronze level being the entry criteria to both EOS and WOS premier leagues in a few years. Stopping ground sharing on grass parks will probably be in this year in the premier league, and then introduced further down. The entry criteria to the Premier League will resemble the SFA License criteria without lights but lights will be added over time, next season close to 50% of the WOS prem will be licensed if all clubs applying pass this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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