WoSFL Licensing

[Pyramidic]

52 minutes ago, calmac25 said:

Found this actually but can't upload the picture.

Looks like a basic cover in the corner to meet licence standards

 

It looks fantastic- well done Clydebank.

[suitsuit]

More details on a home ground for St Cadoc's.

https://www.barrheadnews.com/news/19149119.football-club-aims-develop-home-ground-newton-mearns/ 

[Burnieman]

On 07/03/2021 at 13:29, Pyramidic said:

It looks fantastic- well done Clydebank.

Seems an odd posiiton to put it, unless it's temporary until restrictions lift and they can put it where the old cover was.

 

[Ginaro]

1 minute ago, Burnieman said:

Seems an odd posiiton to put it, unless it's temporary until restrictions lift and they can put it where the old cover was.

Looking at the other tweets there's a photo showing the old cover which is yet to have a new roof put on it, so I'm assuming this one is insurance for the end of the month to meet the 100 cover requirement like other clubs.

[Pyramidic]

1 hour ago, suitsuit said:

More details on a home ground for St Cadoc's.

https://www.barrheadnews.com/news/19149119.football-club-aims-develop-home-ground-newton-mearns/

 

10th March

Football club aims to develop home ground in Newton Mearns

A FOOTBALL club hopes to take over the running of grass pitches in Newton Mearns to develop a home ground.

St Cadoc’s Youth Club wants to rent Crookfur playing fields from East Renfrewshire Council.

It has plans to build two artificial pitches on the land, a council officer revealed.

Andy Cahill, East Renfrewshire’s environment director, said a 25-year lease, at £1 per year, is proposed.

He added the minimal rent would allow the football club to direct money towards developing the site.

Annually, the council makes £4,200 from renting the pitches but the upkeep is around £13,000. If a lease is agreed, the football club would take over the responsibility for the maintenance.

Council leader Tony Buchanan said: “We’re extremely fortunate in East Renfrewshire that we do have three quality clubs that deliver health and wellbeing for all of our children and many adults as well.

“I think that’s testament to the area that we have. We equally know that the pressure on the pitches we have across the authority, and they are numerous, is extremely tight.

“We would encourage the community to take ownership when they can in order to ensure those clubs continue to grow and provide those services.”

A new pavilion, with four changing rooms, was recently built by the council as part of a nursery development in Crookfur Park.

The changing rooms are in the same building as the nursery but can be secured to allow exclusive use by teams using the pitches.

St Cadoc’s – which has over 750 registered players – currently gets priority booking of the pitch at Eastwood High School.

Mr Cahill has proposed transferring changing room lets to East Renfrewshire Culture and Leisure Trust to “compensate” for any potential losses incurred if St Cadoc’s no longer rents the pitch.

The council is legally required to advertise the proposal, allowing any objections to be made. However, this will not happen before May’s Scottish Parliament elections.

Building two artificial pitches would require planning permission from the council – and the club would need to secure funds for the work.

A council report stated: “Grass pitches by their nature offer less playing time through condition and natural elements than artificial pitches and incur more revenue costs in terms of maintenance.

“The construction of artificial pitches is however a significant capital cost and the council has diminishing capital reserves available and other priorities to consider.

“There is an opportunity within this proposal to offset revenue costs and to enhance local sports provision through partnership working with a local club.”

Barrhead Youth Football Club has previously received council funds for a pitch and changing rooms at Cowan Park and Giffnock Soccer Centre got money for a pitch in Eastwood Park.

Source: https://www.barrheadnews.com/news/19149119.football-club-aims-develop-home-ground-newton-mearns/

 

St Cadoc’s are a club that are clearly going places. I wonder how many of the WOSFL Amateur / Youth applicants are similarly geared up?

Edited March 11, 2021 by Pyramidic

[not man of the match]

Seems an odd posiiton to put it, unless it's temporary until restrictions lift and they can put it where the old cover was.
 

It’s in addition to the yet to be constructed replacement on the opposite side.

[Edinburgh Hatter]

15 hours ago, not man of the match said:

It’s in addition to the yet to be constructed replacement on the opposite side.

You should put a few images of Holm Park on the Clydebank website!

And I don't just mean images which are taken during matches, but ones which specifically show the facilities you have and the improvements made (and planned). Folk are naturally interested in these sorts of details (you've only to look at the number of times the same query or topic is raised on sites like these, when a bit of definite info from the club concerned would save folk going round and round in circles of misinformation).

Surely any club would want to highlight progress they have made? And with a decent presence on social media, including the club website, how difficult is it to take a picture or three and post them?

Clydebank certainly aren't the only club who are missing a trick when it comes to boosting their image, for free, to a wider audience. Over the past few months, there have been significant developments at various levels in the lower pyramid.

A few examples: it has taken many months for images of a stand under construction last spring at Broughty Athletic to hit their website; Queen's Park's media coverage of the major refurbishment of Lesser Hampden is woeful: poorly presented and outdated, and Spartans (or could it be their tenants?!) are currently building a sizeable new stand and media platform at Ainslie Park. But unless you've actually been there, you would know absolutely nothing about it.

A picture, as they say, tells a thousand words!

Just a suggestion.

Edited March 12, 2021 by Edinburgh Hatter

[not man of the match]

You should put a few images of Holm Park on the Clydebank website!
And I don't just mean images which are taken during matches, but ones which specifically show the facilities you have and the improvements made (and planned). Folk are naturally interested in these sorts of details (you've only to look at the number of times the same query or topic is raised on sites like these, when a bit of definite info from the club concerned would save folk going round and round in circles of misinformation).
Surely any club would want to highlight progress they have made? And with a decent presence on social media, including the club website, how difficult is it to take a picture or three and post them?
Clydebank certainly aren't the only club who are missing a trick when it comes to boosting their image, for free, to a wider audience. Over the past few months, there have been significant developments at various levels in the lower pyramid.
A few examples: it has taken many months for images of a stand under construction last spring at Broughty Athletic to hit their website; Queen's Park's media coverage of the major refurbishment of Lesser Hampden is woeful: poorly presented and outdated, and Spartans (or could it be their tenants?!) are currently building a sizeable new stand and media platform at Ainslie Park. But unless you've actually been there, you would know absolutely nothing about it.
A picture, as they say, tells a thousand words!
Just a suggestion. [emoji6]

The club has communicated the ongoing work to the members only yesterday. Chain of command[emoji1360]

[Pyramidic]

A few more images of Holm Park covering accessibility.

Edited March 13, 2021 by Pyramidic

[cmontheloknow]

On 11/03/2021 at 17:05, Pyramidic said:

 

10th March

Football club aims to develop home ground in Newton Mearns

A FOOTBALL club hopes to take over the running of grass pitches in Newton Mearns to develop a home ground.

St Cadoc’s Youth Club wants to rent Crookfur playing fields from East Renfrewshire Council.

It has plans to build two artificial pitches on the land, a council officer revealed.

Andy Cahill, East Renfrewshire’s environment director, said a 25-year lease, at £1 per year, is proposed.

He added the minimal rent would allow the football club to direct money towards developing the site.

Annually, the council makes £4,200 from renting the pitches but the upkeep is around £13,000. If a lease is agreed, the football club would take over the responsibility for the maintenance.

Council leader Tony Buchanan said: “We’re extremely fortunate in East Renfrewshire that we do have three quality clubs that deliver health and wellbeing for all of our children and many adults as well.

“I think that’s testament to the area that we have. We equally know that the pressure on the pitches we have across the authority, and they are numerous, is extremely tight.

“We would encourage the community to take ownership when they can in order to ensure those clubs continue to grow and provide those services.”

A new pavilion, with four changing rooms, was recently built by the council as part of a nursery development in Crookfur Park.

The changing rooms are in the same building as the nursery but can be secured to allow exclusive use by teams using the pitches.

St Cadoc’s – which has over 750 registered players – currently gets priority booking of the pitch at Eastwood High School.

Mr Cahill has proposed transferring changing room lets to East Renfrewshire Culture and Leisure Trust to “compensate” for any potential losses incurred if St Cadoc’s no longer rents the pitch.

The council is legally required to advertise the proposal, allowing any objections to be made. However, this will not happen before May’s Scottish Parliament elections.

Building two artificial pitches would require planning permission from the council – and the club would need to secure funds for the work.

A council report stated: “Grass pitches by their nature offer less playing time through condition and natural elements than artificial pitches and incur more revenue costs in terms of maintenance.

“The construction of artificial pitches is however a significant capital cost and the council has diminishing capital reserves available and other priorities to consider.

“There is an opportunity within this proposal to offset revenue costs and to enhance local sports provision through partnership working with a local club.”

Barrhead Youth Football Club has previously received council funds for a pitch and changing rooms at Cowan Park and Giffnock Soccer Centre got money for a pitch in Eastwood Park.

Source: https://www.barrheadnews.com/news/19149119.football-club-aims-develop-home-ground-newton-mearns/

 

St Cadoc’s are a club that are clearly going places. I wonder how many of the WOSFL Amateur / Youth applicants are similarly geared up?

The NIMBYs are out

https://www.change.org/p/east-renfrewshire-council-cabinet-save-crookfur-park?recruiter=1063071044&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_abi&utm_term=psf_combo_share_abi&recruited_by_id=b1990a40-6e74-11ea-89b7-9f7c565e666c&utm_content=fht-27826597-en-gb%3A0

[GNU_Linux]

Never forget some of the locals in that part of the world lost their shit because the site of Whole Foods was replaced by an underclass establishment like LIDL that'd bring down the area

[santheman]

On 13/03/2021 at 18:33, Pyramidic said:

A few more images of Holm Park covering accessibility.

As a fan who regularly takes a wheelchair user to games this actally puts a few of the SPL grounds to shame. Great to see and well done to everyone involved.

[santheman]

1 hour ago, cmontheloknow said:

The NIMBYs are out

https://www.change.org/p/east-renfrewshire-council-cabinet-save-crookfur-park?recruiter=1063071044&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_abi&utm_term=psf_combo_share_abi&recruited_by_id=b1990a40-6e74-11ea-89b7-9f7c565e666c&utm_content=fht-27826597-en-gb%3A0

It's Newton Mearns for gods sake, they need somewhere to take their dogs for a shit.

[paul-r-cfc]

One of the local nutters is not happy.

[parsforlife]

3 hours ago, cmontheloknow said:

The NIMBYs are out

https://www.change.org/p/east-renfrewshire-council-cabinet-save-crookfur-park?recruiter=1063071044&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_abi&utm_term=psf_combo_share_abi&recruited_by_id=b1990a40-6e74-11ea-89b7-9f7c565e666c&utm_content=fht-27826597-en-gb%3A0

What utter arseholes.  Acting like St Cadoc’s are a big commercial operation rather than a positive community asset just cos they don’t like the idea of crossing the road while walking the dog.

[Arthurlie1981]

What utter arseholes.  Acting like St Cadoc’s are a big commercial operation rather than a positive community asset just cos they don’t like the idea of crossing the road while walking the dog.

I have experience (not a pleasant one!) of being on the receiving end of the people of Newton Mearns over projects and the one thing I will say is they will be organised, loud and won’t be go away quietly.

Hope it works out for St Cadocs but it could turn into a long battle.

[Meadowman]

10 hours ago, paul-r-cfc said:

One of the local nutters is not happy.

Sorry but I can see the residents point of view,if that’s land that’s designated for public recreation and it’s not even owned by the council,I don’t think that they’ll succeed,not everyone is a football supporter 

[Dev]

2 hours ago, Meadowman said:

Sorry but I can see the residents point of view,if that’s land that’s designated for public recreation and it’s not even owned by the council,I don’t think that they’ll succeed,not everyone is a football supporter 

[a] Presumably the land is owned by the Council otherwise the Council couldn't lease the land to anyone.

(b)   Lots of people live in the area and they demand all sorts of facilities and that includes those for football.

[c] The Council cannot afford to pay for additional sports and recreational facilities.

[d] The Council cannot afford the cost of the up-keep of its property (not just recreational facilities and Parks) so this would reduce costs from that Council Budget. That's a direct benefit to local households.

[e] How much space do you need for dog walking, apart from street pavements? There's plenty of them  after all.

Edited March 16, 2021 by Dev
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[jimbaxters]

56 minutes ago, Dev said:

[a] Presumably the land is owned by the Council otherwise the Council couldn't lease the land to anyone.

Lots of people live in the area and they demand all sorts of facilities and that includes those for football.

[c] The Council cannot afford to pay for additional sports and recreational facilities.

[d] The Council cannot afford the cost of the up-keep of its property (not just recreational facilities and Parks) so this would reduce costs from that Council Budget. That's a direct benefit to local households.

[d] How much space do you need for dog walking, apart from street pavements? There's plenty of them  after all.

Points a,c,d & d. (?)

Regardless of these things it looks like St. Cadoc's are probably in for a protracted battle to get what they want. It will be interesting to watch.

[Cyclizine]

11 hours ago, parsforlife said:

What utter arseholes.  Acting like St Cadoc’s are a big commercial operation rather than a positive community asset just cos they don’t like the idea of crossing the road while walking the dog.

I have little sympathy for people who are up in arms about not being able to walk their dog over a sports pitch, particularly when they're used extensively for youth training. Looking at the aerial photos the park is basically two grass pitches one surrounded by a running track, plus there's another similarly sized piece of parkland 200m to the southwest.

Edited March 16, 2021 by Cyclizine