jimbaxters Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, glensmad said: No, it was suggested last night as a possibility. Personally I don't see it panning out that way though. How do you see it going? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 No, it was suggested last night as a possibility.Personally I don't see it panning out that way though.Why should the league cup be dropped in favour of another associations cup that not everyone in the actual host cup will play in? Just play the junior cup midweek if people want to enter it. I like your idea for a 20 team premier, would certainly fill up saturdays and give us some midweek football in august and spring! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesel1994 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Strange request? Yet it was the West Region that put out an email saying if clubs were having difficulty paying this money they were to contact the WoSFL Treasurer to discuss things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not man of the match Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 It's important to remember that 15 spectators worth of admission money for two linesmen becomes a highly significant expense item if there are only 40 or so paying spectators at a game, which can easily happen at this level.I totally understand that, just answering the previous poster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Why should the league cup be dropped in favour of another associations cup that not everyone in the actual host cup will play in? Just play the junior cup midweek if people want to enter it. I like your idea for a 20 team premier, would certainly fill up saturdays and give us some midweek football in august and spring! 38 match league isn't workable next season Edited April 29, 2020 by jimbaxters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not man of the match Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Alot of these clubs should have asked more questions rather than just jump ship because someone told them to. Many of them should also have remained in the Junior grade where they were happy.If some of them want to reignite the West Region juniors then they should do so.Failing that, shut up and get this moving. There were no promises. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Think 16 is about right, 30 games plus a few cup - added to the usual postponements. Bigger leagues are ok if you can bang a few night games in early , otherwise you'll get the traditional squeeze at the end of the season. If lower divisions are different tiers/levels are there tight criteria to achieve promotions ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 38 match league isn't workable next seasonYes it is if the season starts in August. Using saturdays and midweeks, Play 8 games in august, 6 in september, 3 league games in october, 3 in november, 3 in december, 3 in january, 3 in feb, 3 in march, 6 in april, gives free weekends for lowland league cup and league cup. Probably no time for the sjfa cup but no one cares. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, not man of the match said: Alot of these clubs should have asked more questions rather than just jump ship because someone told them to. Many of them should also have remained in the Junior grade where they were happy. If some of them want to reignite the West Region juniors then they should do so. Failing that, shut up and get this moving. There were no promises. Football is nothing without opponents that challenge you - imagine the wasteland that will be the East region in a decade's time. If Ants, Shotts and Royal Albert go, they'd be making a huge error of judgement. The Titanic analogy is well-worn but it is apt. Getting out of the lifeboats, going back aboard and reclaiming your seat in the dining room as it was more comfortable. Edited April 29, 2020 by cmontheloknow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmparkheroes Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 25 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: Yes I got an answer previously thanks. But it's not entirely fair for teams in the top league to start on a level playing field again given that they have worked hard to get themselves in this position before being forced to make this move. Respectfully disagree JB. Clydebank weren’t forced to move and although being placed in the top division would be beneficial I feel that it is unfair to 50 clubs who must feel as if they have been relegated without kicking a ball. We are all joining a new league. Position in this season’s WRSJFA should have no relevance in next season’s WoSFL. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Yes it is if the season starts in August. Using saturdays and midweeks, Play 8 games in august, 6 in september, 3 league games in october, 3 in november, 3 in december, 3 in january, 3 in feb, 3 in march, 6 in april, gives free weekends for lowland league cup and league cup. Probably no time for the sjfa cup but no one cares. I know you said before that the West Premier didn't interest you but surely you paid enough attention to how many postponements used to happen. That's fantasy you've posted there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not man of the match Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Football is nothing without opponents that challenge you - imagine the wasteland that will be the East region in a decade's time. If Ants, Shotts and Royal Albert go, they'd be making a huge error of judgement. The Titanic analogy is well-worn but it is apt. Getting out of the lifeboats, going back aboard and reclaiming your seat in the dining room as it was more comfortable.Many should have stayed in the dining room to start with, this particular ship wasn’t sinking. They chose to go with no guarantees in place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Why should the league cup be dropped in favour of another associations cup that not everyone in the actual host cup will play in? ... Because the LL told west region clubs that would happen subject to certain conditions being met by the SJFA. The LL didn't have to do that but did, so you have to live with the SJC being part of the equation, if the SJFA ratifies the necessary rule changes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, holmparkheroes said: Respectfully disagree JB. Clydebank weren’t forced to move and although being placed in the top division would be beneficial I feel that it is unfair to 50 clubs who must feel as if they have been relegated without kicking a ball. We are all joining a new league. Position in this season’s WRSJFA should have no relevance in next season’s WoSFL. Clydebank are another story though pal. It's common knowledge that they have wanted senior status and it really didn't matter a whole lot what the circumstances were. Also, they are a club used to starting again so it's ok with them. Clubs like Talbot, Glenafton and Beith haven't been near relegation for years so are bound to feel hard done by. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, not man of the match said: Many should have stayed in the dining room to start with, this particular ship wasn’t sinking. They chose to go with no guarantees in place. Without the bigger clubs it would have withered, just like the East is doing. All that keeps it going is the Tayside clubs with nowhere to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmparkheroes Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, jimbaxters said: Clydebank are another story though pal. It's common knowledge that they have wanted senior status and it really didn't matter a whole lot what the circumstances were. Also, they are a club used to starting again so it's ok with them. Clubs like Talbot, Glenafton and Beith haven't been near relegation for years so are bound to feel hard done by. Whilst Glencairn, Troon and Rob Roy are gonna be in the top division. Deservedly? Maybe not if we are to use position from this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Yes it is if the season starts in August. Using saturdays and midweeks, Play 8 games in august, 6 in september, 3 league games in october, 3 in november, 3 in december, 3 in january, 3 in feb, 3 in march, 6 in april, gives free weekends for lowland league cup and league cup. Probably no time for the sjfa cup but no one cares. EoS conference teams were doing 34 league games this season + SCC + FNQC + LC + KC + AJC/SC. If the League Cup gets binned 38 is challenging but feasible for tier 6 WoS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicotina Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 with the scottish winter u can calculate in on average 6 missed games never mind calculating icumbernauld/rob roy being waterlogged causing a backlog which it has done every year since groundsharing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Will the SFA allow a 20 team top division? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile E Coyote Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, patriot1 said: Will the SFA allow a 20 team top division? The question is "Will Talbot allow it" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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