glensmad Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Agree but I think its teams further down the leagues that are unhappy as they aren't getting 'promotion' But they are, they will all be at tier 7 which is effectively the old Championship level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmparkheroes Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Hate to repeat myself, all teams are new applicants to WoSFL, whatever league they came from is irrelevant, all teams start on a level footing. Rod Petrie et al must be told that the SFA are discriminating by favouring some new clubs over others. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 7 hours ago, Dev said: The PWG meetings identified that for those leagues participating at Tier 6 it should be the top division within that league which is formally part of Tier 6 – divisions below that will not be Tier 6. The East of Scotland Football League will be moving from three parallel conferences to a structure which has one division at the top. It is that new top division which will form part of Tier 6 for Season 2019/20. Therefore the number of Tier 6 clubs for Season 2019/20 will be 32 (16 from EoSFL and 16 of the 18 clubs in the SoSFL). Ultimately Tier 6 might comprise approximately 64 clubs and this would be a manageable number for the Scottish FA in terms of the JPP process” This shows that the plan was to have a limited number of clubs at Tier 6 and they would be dealt with directly by the SFA from the point of view of Discipline. However, it also makes it clear that conferences at Tier 6 were approved provided that it was for a single season. cannot get much clearer than that. The precedent was set in 2019. The real question is why should that not apply again? Who was behind this recent change and why? It's not a court of law. Precedent is not relevant. SFA can do what they like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village elder Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 6 hours ago, Tutankhamen said: Correct, what would anybody gain from the Rossvale away support? the need to apply for income support 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 5 hours ago, fraggs11 said: Why should a Pollok or Talbot, for example, lose good crowds against each other just so the teams further down get it instead? As I said above the teams in the top 20 are there on merit. Bonnyton are there for legal reasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village elder Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: It's not a court of law. Precedent is not relevant. SFA can do what they like. had this very same argument with my mate whose dummy was lying next to his pram their game their rules....back to the juniors and f@@k the SFA he screamed ....until he discovered later on that we got dragged up to top flight..so much for sporting integrity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 7 hours ago, Killiepiyo said: All here if anyone can be bothered counting them all https://www.auchinlecktalbot.com/results-2018-2019/ Looks like 60 competitive games to me on a quick count through, which puts 38 into its proper perspective if there are fewer cups and more midweek floodlight use. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village elder Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, holmparkheroes said: Hate to repeat myself, all teams are new applicants to WoSFL, whatever league they came from is irrelevant, all teams start on a level footing. Rod Petrie et al must be told that the SFA are discriminating by favouring some new clubs over others. i tend to agree with what you are saying .It appears that your expectations of a new set up was in line with most others ......seeded conferences similar to the road the East travelled..but it's been oft repeated that option never existed......but who knew this...given it has ended the way it has in my opinion the " formula " to calculate league winners should have applied to relegation for with the exception of the top 3 in the championship and Bonnyton the last unfinished junior season was a complete waste of time and a boot in the haw maws for most folk Edited May 2, 2020 by Village elder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepiyo Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Looks like 60 competitive games to me on a quick count through, which puts 38 into its proper perspective if there are fewer cups and more midweek floodlight use. No bragging but keep in mind that no a lot of part time clubs could pull off 60+ games a season with silverware. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Correction to 58 as two were postponed but your point about how impressive it is for a part time club still stands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 In last season's West Premier, least games played was 38: Meadow, Ladeside, Peasy & Renfrew. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANKIEBILL Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: In last season's West Premier, least games played was 38: Meadow, Ladeside, Peasy & Renfrew. Are you including friendlies ? We only played 36 competitive games ( incl 28 league games ) due to our woeful Cup record 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Killiepiyo said: All here if anyone can be bothered counting them all https://www.auchinlecktalbot.com/results-2018-2019/ Thanks. That's 40 competitive games by the end of March. With floodlights that make it less difficult to fit in by play-off matches for promotion to Tier 5. Some Cup games could fit in later too. Edited May 2, 2020 by Dev . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 8 hours ago, Bawrash1 said: I don’t see what all the fuss is about. The 20 teams involved in the top league next season are there on merit, they’ve built there foundations over the years and got themselves into the premier league of junior football so why should all junior teams start at the same level in wosl? You do realise that you're not supposed to say such things here! The WoS wanted a democratic conferences system just like the EoS had done so recently. Strange how that good workable idea was no longer acceptable for, even, a single season. However, it is what it is and the league will make the best of the situation and in 12 months time the stirrers will be forgotten and all clubs will have found their level. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, cmontheloknow said: It's not a court of law. Precedent is not relevant. SFA can do what they like. Yes. However, that works both ways doesn't it? What provoked IM/RP to bother to interfere as it is alleged that they have done? Any answers? They have other pressing matters to deal with currently. Edited May 2, 2020 by Dev . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dev said: Yes. However, that works both ways doesn't it? What provoked IM/RP to bother to interfere as it is alleged that they have done? Any answers? They have other current pressing matters to deal with currently. It probably wouldn't have been raised as an issue as the EoS Conferences were just seen as a single season solution. The East Region decided to split their Superleague in two, so it was kept alive as a discussion topic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot supporter Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 But they are, they will all be at tier 7 which is effectively the old Championship level.The argument is it would be a waste of a season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 36 minutes ago, Dev said: Yes. However, that works both ways doesn't it? What provoked IM/RP to bother to interfere as it is alleged that they have done? Any answers? They have other pressing matters to deal with currently. Probably all boils down to full member clubs not wanting extra money spent to hire more staff to do the discipline for games involving non-full members. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, Talbot supporter said: 8 hours ago, glensmad said: But they are, they will all be at tier 7 which is effectively the old Championship level. The argument is it would be a waste of a season How is it a waste? Promotion is at stake and, without knowing how the WoSFL will look below the Premier League in a year's time, perhaps relegation as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 It could even be easier for smaller clubs to reach tier 6. There will be 20 clubs fighting for 13 places, had they all be in conferences, it's not unlikely that more than 13 of them would have reached the Premier Division. So even though there will only be 3 spots available for the remaining 47, without all the stronger teams, there will be plenty of teams fancying their chances to reach tier 6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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