B or Colt teams in the Lower Leagues.

[FREDDYFRY]

Youth team or Colts as some Dicks call them..100%,  absolutely naw!!!!

[Bad Wolf]

I'll be totally in favour of adding Orc and Death Eater colt sides to the SPFL when their fans' ability to act like decent human beings can be guaranteed. So, just to be clear, that means never.

[parsforlife]

No.

i haven’t even read past the first line but I highly doubt there anything in it that makes any sense.

[Gianfranco]

Delete this shite please mods.

[Alert Mongoose]

[paranoid android]

f**k that. 

[morley]

No, this has been knocked back so many times by Scottish clubs. If this was ever allowed it would kill off sporting integrity, and money will rule. It will have nothing to do with developing young Scottish talent as likely to be mostly foreign players the big clubs put in these teams. For the first time next year there is going to be a truly national pyramid in Scottish football under the spfl with c200 clubs dreaming of one day going upto the big time. Those clubs deserve their chance to dream and not see places taken above them by big club reserve or colt teams. If this ever happened I would honestly want nothing more to do with Scottish Football and never go to any games again. 

[ropy]

Obviously didn’t read it all but if all the top sides put a second team in a lower division would we call it the reserve league? Have we not tried that?

[DA Baracus]

There are literally zero positives to having 'colt'*/B teams in Scottish football.

 

 

*Why 'colt' incidentally? Who not 'foal' or some other young animal?

[Sergeant Wilson]

3 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

There are literally zero positives to having 'colt'*/B teams in Scottish football.

 

 

*Why 'colt' incidentally? Who not 'foal' or some other young animal?

Piglets.

Eta...maggots

Edited April 23, 2020 by Sergeant Wilson

[Sergeant Wilson]

Snaklets

[coprolite]

Why only the gruesome twosome? 

Why couldn't Hearts for example field a team in the lower leagues? Oh., hang on... 

[Jimmy Shaker]

We've already got a Colt team in the Highland League - you'd have though the OP would have known this - and it's not been a roaring success. 

[GordonD]

It would work just as well to let the smaller clubs field colts teams in the Premiership.

[naegoodinthedark]

The original post was far too long, so I didn’t read it.
It’s still a no from me though, whatever it’s about.

[johnnydun]

The Premiership in 10 years time if this monstrosity goes ahead...

1.Celtic

2.Celtic B

3.The The Rangers mk3

4.The The Rangers mk3 B

5.Dundee

6.Aberdeen

7.Hibs

8.Motherwell

9.Kilmarnock

10.St Johnstone 

11.Hamilton Accies

12.Dundee United

[DeeTillEhDeh]

No

[Killiefan]

2 hours ago, Thistle Scotland Europe said:

I think it is time we allowed the big sides, or all Premier sides to put second teams in the lower divisions.

 

Purpose

 

The point in this is to help Scotland produce more talented football players, who can go on to help the Scottish international team reach and do well in major championships.

 

The more talented players we have, the more chance of Scotland doing well in international football

 

It is not to help Celtic or Rangers. It is to help the Scottish international team. Although the big sides would benefit from this move.

 

Justification.

 

At present many young Scottish players do not get early senior level experience because there are other players in their way. So players are not tested at competitive level football. Giving players early experience of competitive football is vital for their development

 

Examples.

 

In Spain, Germany, the Netherlands, France, Belgium, Portugal and Germany , the big sides play reserve teams in the lower divisions, so that young players can test themselves against grown men, and at competitive levels.

 

The most striking example is Croatia. Croatia a nation that has reached the World Cup Final with a population smaller than Scotland. In Croatia, 3 teams Osijek, Zagreb, and Hajduk Split have second teams playing in the second division. So in Croatia. No one says it is just persecuting the smaller sides or ganging up with the big 3 sides to let the big sides to have second teams in the league system. People in Croatia realise that having the big sides having reserve teams in the lower divisions, is a way of guaranteeing young top players at the big sides will get competitive experience of football at a young age, They put the Croatian international side above the petty interests of each club.   

 

What I want for Scottish Football.

 

I want Scotland to do well in major championships. I want Scottish clubs to do well in European club competitions. I want Scottish football to be seen as a major league in Europe and the World.

 

So we need a system that produces more top players, great elite club sides who can do well in Europe. Have high attendances in the Scottish League. Attracting great players to play in Scotland.

 

 

 

The Critics of the idea.

 

That this is taking places in the league away from smaller sides.

 

But I think any team big enough to be in the Scottish League, should be offered a place in the Scottish League.

 

But

 

A)      You should not put the interests of a part time team finishing 8 places higher in the league system above the interests of the Scottish international team producing good players. That is a betrayal of Scottish nationality.  

 

B)      What gets on my nerves is people who say we should have less team in the Scottish Football League. Then the next minute complain about B teams being put in the league on the basis that they might take places away from smaller sides like Brora Rangers of Kelty Hearts, that they have just said should not be in the Scottish League. Let me reiterate I think Brora and Kelty should be in the Scottish League, but I also think the big side’s reserve teams should be in the league, so every young Scottish player, at the big sides has the capability to show what they are capable of on a football field.

 

People will say well why don’t ’the big clubs just play young players in their first team more often.

 

My argument to that. Is that that is not living in the real world. If the elite sides just played inexperienced sides in their first team every season, they would do worse in the league, and would perform terribly in European competitions. What we need a system that enables all our club sides to do well but also produces more international players

 

Those who don’t care about Scottish football’s reputation. -

 

What gets on my nerves is people who don’t care how well Scottish clubs do in Europe. And don’t care how well the international side does in international football. And then have the cheek to pretend that they have sincere views on how to help Scottish football develop at club level and international level.

 

They tend to put forward ridiculous ideas like suggesting that we should let Celtic and Rangers join the English League and that losing our biggest sides would help Scottish football. Or they say stupid things like well our teams do rubbish in Europe so who cares about making a system to that makes them do better   Or they bring up sore points from years ago, that justify their hatred of the big, or elite clubs in Scottish football. And then these people have the cheek for us to take their views on how to help Scottish football seriously.

 

I know one person suggested that every Scottish club should be part time. How the heck would Scottish football club perform in Europe, if we lost all our top players to other leagues and could not attract top foreign players to the league? It is utter nonsense.

 

I know one person who said they would rather their own side win the league rather than Scotland producing top players.

 

 

 

The Rangers Celtic Critics

 

You will get some who will suggest all I want to do is have Celtic and Rangers winning the lower leagues. That is not what this is about. It is about motivating the top clubs to develop young Scottish players without damaging their chances in Europe.

 

My Plan

 

I would have every Scottish Premier side, be allowed a under 21-year old sides in the bottom tier of the SPFL. That would be a good level for Scottish players to develop. I would also allow the under 21-year old sides to have 3 over 21 year old players in their teams. This is to ensure there are players who can teach their younger players what to do in competitive football games. As you need some older experienced players to pass on tricks of the trade and composure to the less experienced players.

 

You will get some who will say what about the loan system.

 

But the loan system would not give an entire Premier side’s youth team in their side. You would be lucky for a lower division team to give more than 3 young players a chance.

 

How would you like it if your fave side had to play a reserve side?

 

I remember one critic of my idea said well how would Aberdeen fans like it if they had to play the Real Madrid B side?

 

I would be happy to have it that Colt or B sides do not play in the Scottish domestic cups, if this happened.

 

My answer to that would be;

 

1)      I am not Spanish. I am not interested in helping Spanish sides develop. I am interested in helping Scottish players at the big clubs develop. Why would your first argument be to ask how I would be interested in helping foreign teams to do better. Do you see the Scottish sides, in the same esteem as foreign sides.  

 

2)      The only way Aberdeen could play Real Madrid B side in competitive football, would be if there was a European Super League, and Aberdeen found themselves in a division with Real Madrid’s second team, it would not bother me. If it was about playing Nice one week, Livorno the next, and then Real Madrid’s second side. I would take that, if that was our level.

 

 

 

Other advantages of this idea;

 

1. Imagine a Celtic B v Rangers B game filling a large stadium. Imagine the lower Scottish leagues listing 20,000 or 30,000 fans turning up for a League One or League Two decider. It would make Scottish football look better.

    

2. The big clubs would get better players because their players had developed more at a young age. So could perform better in European competitions.

    

3. Smaller club’s fans would be able to see the young potential Scottish stars at their stadiums,

    

4. There would be more attention given to the lower leagues, as the big club’s fans would want to know how their teams were getting on.

    

5. It could lead to great players from other countries coming to Scotland due to Scotland having a better youth development system.

    

6. Every club in Scotland has the potential to reach the Premier, and then have a B team in the lower leagues. Every club in Scotland could be in the Premier, with the right backing behind them. So this could be something all Scottish clubs could look forward to doing. 40 years ago Ross County were a small club in the Highland League. Now they are an established side in the Premier. That could happen to almost any club in Scotland, with the current pyramid system. Look at other examples in the past like Clydebank, and Dumbarton.

    

 

 

Hope you have enjoyed reading my views,

 

Thanks,

 

Stupid cow

[Jimi Shandrix]

Not for me Clive.

[ATLIS]

2 hours ago, Thistle Scotland Europe said:

I think it is time we allowed the big sides, or all Premier sides to put second teams in the lower divisions.

f**k that, f**k this, f**k you.

f**k the OF and enabling any club to horde youth players. Let them develop at other clubs and have a proper career. 

Edited April 23, 2020 by ATLIS