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Celtic League Premier Division of 20 

Celtic League Division 1 of  18

National Leagues underneath(Scottish Premier, League of Ireland, N, Irish League, Welsh Premier,). as the third division.

 
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12 hours ago, Darren44 said:

The Alternative and most radical is for an British League. However only the Glasgow clubs, Dundee sides, Edinburgh sides would be match. Maybe Aberdeen. The rest i doubt it. 

A British league would significantly disadvantage Scottish teams. Scottish clubs' main source of income is gate receipts, whereas English clubs benefit from greater TV income. 

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1 hour ago, Darren44 said:

In Rugby Scotland, Wales, Ireland formed the CELTIC LEAGUE in order to compete with the English and French Rugby Leagues.

 

Well Ladies and Gentlemen its time for Football to do the same as its Rugby County Parts like it or not. Cross Border Leagues are the Future for Small Nations. In order to compete with the big Leagues.

CELTIC LEAGUE FOOTBALL.

SCOTLAND  6 Teams

Northern Ireland 6 Teams

Irish Republic 6 Teams

Wales                2 Teams

A 20 team league playing twice. The bottom team each season is relegated to there national League. Alternatively you could two division Celtic Leagues. With National leagues as Third Division.

Games would be played on a weekend to enable fans to travel. and free up mid week for European Games.

 

UEFA OBJECTS

 

UEFA in the past as objected. However UEFA now accept Cross Border leagues will become a reality for clubs to compete with the bigger leagues.

And a lot of traditional Scottish rugby teams are on their knees because of it, grass roots is not a very "happy place".

For me any move to this would be the death knell of Scottish football. Not a fan of cross border leagues, as to be fair it's nothing to do with football, but driven by a desire for TV money and armchair viewers for the TV companies. Due to Scotland having, to be fair, such a strong league in terms of the number of folk that go to see it, would that actually help or would playing teams that are part-time drop the Scottish "quality" and therefore fans and viewers once the novelty wore off and the reality hit. The Scottish leagues left behind would drop in comparison and in my view this would be detrimental to Scottish football and would confirm to the world we'd given up.

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Just now, Tannadeechee said:

And a lot of traditional Scottish rugby teams are on their knees because of it, grass roots is not a very "happy place".

For me any.move to this would be the death knell of Scottish football. Not a fan of cross border leagues, as to be fair it's nothing to do with football, but driven by a desire for TV money and armchair viewers for the TV companies. Due to Scotland having, to be fair, the such a strong league in terms of the number of folk that go to see it, would that actually help or would playing teams that are part-time drop the Scottish "quality" and there fore fans and viewers once the novelty wore off and the reality hit. The Scottish leagues left behind would drop in comparison and in my view this would be detrimental to Scottish football and would confirm to the world we'd given up.

Well there's a positive in this after all. 

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12 hours ago, craigkillie said:

So rare that in fact there were in fact two Scottish club in the group stages of the Europa League the previous season too.

Darren is obviously yet another of these JKB sockpuppet accounts where reasoned argument is pointless - save your brainpower.

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29 minutes ago, Darren44 said:

In Rugby Scotland, Wales, Ireland formed the CELTIC LEAGUE in order to compete with the English and French Rugby Leagues.

 

Well Ladies and Gentlemen its time for Football to do the same as its Rugby County Parts like it or not. Cross Border Leagues are the Future for Small Nations. In order to compete with the big Leagues.

CELTIC LEAGUE FOOTBALL.

SCOTLAND  6 Teams

Northern Ireland 6 Teams

Irish Republic 6 Teams

Wales                2 Teams

A 20 team league playing twice. The bottom team each season is relegated to there national League. Alternatively you could two division Celtic Leagues. With National leagues as Third Division.

Games would be played on a weekend to enable fans to travel. and free up mid week for European Games.

 

UEFA OBJECTS

 

UEFA in the past as objected. However UEFA now accept Cross Border leagues will become a reality for clubs to compete with the bigger leagues.

1.  So a 20-team league would have 12 part-time teams. That's going to bring Sky running with their cheque book.

2.  What would be the attraction for the Scottish, and especially Welsh, clubs?

3.  What is a "County Part"?

4.  Why All The Unnecessary (And Wrong) Capitals?

5. When do the schools go back?

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49 minutes ago, Lofarl said:

Hearts and Thistle have blocked making the arbitration evidence public.  

Oh the irony. So much for all this transparency patter.

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I like the idea of our teams playing in a 'Celtic League', purely because of the utter fury that it would inspire from one club's fans. The SPFL already is Celtic's league thanks to Liewell, amirire?

Seriously, though, this idea could be a winner. Throw in the Colts and a few part-timers from the lower reaches of the English pyramid, and you've got a league structure that could aspire to the same success as the Challenge Cup.

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1 hour ago, Lofarl said:

Hearts and Thistle have blocked making the arbitration evidence public.  

Yes, usual nonsensical reasoning included in this article - 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-blast-back-hearts-partick-22463878#ICID=Android_DailyRecordNewsApp_AppShare

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1 hour ago, Darren44 said:

In Rugby Scotland, Wales, Ireland formed the CELTIC LEAGUE in order to compete with the English and French Rugby Leagues.

 

Well Ladies and Gentlemen its time for Football to do the same as its Rugby County Parts like it or not. Cross Border Leagues are the Future for Small Nations. In order to compete with the big Leagues.

CELTIC LEAGUE FOOTBALL.

SCOTLAND  6 Teams

Northern Ireland 6 Teams

Irish Republic 6 Teams

Wales                2 Teams

A 20 team league playing twice. The bottom team each season is relegated to there national League. Alternatively you could two division Celtic Leagues. With National leagues as Third Division.

Games would be played on a weekend to enable fans to travel. and free up mid week for European Games.

 

UEFA OBJECTS

 

UEFA in the past as objected. However UEFA now accept Cross Border leagues will become a reality for clubs to compete with the bigger leagues.

Its really, really not.

So many reasons why this is daft, many of which have been posted and I can't be arsed typing the fuckton of others.

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In Rugby Scotland, Wales, Ireland formed the CELTIC LEAGUE in order to compete with the English and French Rugby Leagues.
 
Well Ladies and Gentlemen its time for Football to do the same as its Rugby County Parts like it or not. Cross Border Leagues are the Future for Small Nations. In order to compete with the big Leagues.
CELTIC LEAGUE FOOTBALL.
SCOTLAND  6 Teams
Northern Ireland 6 Teams
Irish Republic 6 Teams
Wales                2 Teams
A 20 team league playing twice. The bottom team each season is relegated to there national League. Alternatively you could two division Celtic Leagues. With National leagues as Third Division.
Games would be played on a weekend to enable fans to travel. and free up mid week for European Games.
 
UEFA OBJECTS
 
UEFA in the past as objected. However UEFA now accept Cross Border leagues will become a reality for clubs to compete with the bigger leagues.

I realise this may sound rich after last July's fiasco, but this would be a total mismatch in quality. The top six Scottish clubs are so far ahead of those from each of the other leagues. If you allowed natural promotion and relegation to this I'd be willing to bet that a 20 team Celtic league would eventually contain 18 or 19 Scottish clubs with a token one or two from Ireland.

And despite people constantly claiming that UEFA don't mind cross-border leagues, there is exactly zero evidence of that and nobody anywhere in Europe has actually done so.

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17 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Is this a *** or a mini-***?

Isn't it another account for the character who made the "Best Scottish Results in Europe" thread and another with makey up teams competing in a "British League", listing winners for the last 100 years like 'Belfast Celtic' etc?

The Simpsons Reaction GIF

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1 hour ago, Darren44 said:

In Rugby Scotland, Wales, Ireland formed the CELTIC LEAGUE in order to compete with the English and French Rugby Leagues.

 

Well Ladies and Gentlemen its time for Football to do the same as its Rugby County Parts like it or not. Cross Border Leagues are the Future for Small Nations. In order to compete with the big Leagues.

CELTIC LEAGUE FOOTBALL.

SCOTLAND  6 Teams

Northern Ireland 6 Teams

Irish Republic 6 Teams

Wales                2 Teams

A 20 team league playing twice. The bottom team each season is relegated to there national League. Alternatively you could two division Celtic Leagues. With National leagues as Third Division.

Games would be played on a weekend to enable fans to travel. and free up mid week for European Games.

 

UEFA OBJECTS

 

UEFA in the past as objected. However UEFA now accept Cross Border leagues will become a reality for clubs to compete with the bigger leagues.

We've already got enough part time sides with ramshackle stadiums. It wouldn't improvement our game any. 

Again. Won't EVER happen as it would need a majority vote and I cannot many voting for it. Certainly none of the part time sides. 

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14 hours ago, Tannadeechee said:

One more thing, can the next twat that comes on here get an instant ban for using the pish "laughing stock" to describe Scottish football. I'm fucking sick of it. Don't like it, then bugger off and don't watch it. I take it that those that call it that have absolutely no knowledge of world football. Far worse laughing stocks out there. We do have problems yes but a laughing stock it isn't. 

To be fair nothing would make us a laughing stock quicker than a 14 team top flight with a 6/7 split and 1 team looking on, with the bottom 7 playing a grand total of four post split games.

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1 minute ago, ribzanelli said:

To be fair nothing would make us a laughing stock quicker than a 14 team top flight with a 6/7 split and 1 team looking on, with the bottom 7 playing a grand total of four post split games.

6/8 split. 

They'd play each other twice post split as well. 

The idea was shite though.

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Just now, Mr Positive, sometimes. said:

6/8 split. 

They'd play each other twice post split as well. 

The idea was shite though.

Well he did state that the bottom 7 play 4 additional games, not sure how we get there by playing other teams twice!

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On 26/09/2017 at 12:56, BACKOFTHENET said:
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British Football League Champions - Alternative History 1889 - 2017

 I took a few hours to do this. But I think it was worth it. 

This is looking at if the Scottish, English, Welsh, and Northern Irish Leagues did not exist, and instead the British League had started in 1889 with Scottish, Welsh, English and Irish (then Northern Irish after Irish independence) sides were allowed to join.

I do not support the Scottish, English, Welsh, and Northern Irish Leagues merging. I am an Aberdeen, and Inverness fan. We would do nothing in a modern day British League system nowadays. Plus Scotland would lose a major way of showing it’s identity to the rest of the world. But I have done this list to decide who would have been British champions in an age where the Scottish and English leagues merged.

I have also added a bit of couner history with the fact that if Northern Ireland has been part of a British League, the Northern Irish teams would have been bigger. Plus I have added an imaginary team called Dublin Irish Celtic United, to represent Republic of Ireland football before independence.

Plus I have taken into account, how much bigger sides from Scotland and Northern Ireland would be with British Premiership TV money.

 Year Champions -

1889 Preston North End.

1890 Preston North End.

1891 Everton

1892 Sunderland

1893 Sunderland

1894 Aston Villa

1895 Sunderland

1896 Aston Villa

1897 Aston Villa

1898 Glasgow Celtic

1899 Aston Villa

1900 Aston Villa

1901 Liverpool

1902 Sunderland

1903 Hibernian

1904 The Wednesday

1905 Newcastle United

1906 Liverpool

1907 Glasgow Celtic

1908 Manchester United

1909 Newcastle United

1910 Glasgow Celtic

1911 Manchester United

1912 Blackburn Rovers

1913 Sunderland

1914 Dublin Irish United

1915 Dublin Irish United

1916 Glasgow Celtic

1917 Glasgow Celtic

1918 Glasgow Rangers

1919 Glasgow Celtic

1920 Glasgow Rangers

1921 Glasgow Rangers

1922 Liverpool

1923 Glasgow Rangers

1924 Cardiff City

1925 Glasgow Rangers

1926 Huddersfield Town

1927 Newcastle United

1928 Glasgow Rangers

1929 Sheffield Wednesday

1930 Sheffield Wednesday

1931 Arsenal

1932 Motherwell

1933 Glasgow Rangers

1934 Belfast Celtic

1935 Arsenal

1936 Glasgow Celtic

1937 Manchester City

1938 Arsenal

1939 Everton

1940 - 46 WW2 (WW2 was 1939 - 45, but season could no start until 1946.)

1947 Liverpool

1948 Arsenal

1949 Portsmouth

1950 Hibernian

1951 Hibernian

1952 Manchester United

1953 Arsenal

1954 Wolverhampton Wanderers

1955 Aberdeen

1956 Manchester United

1957 Manchester United

1958 Heart of Midlothian

1959 Wolverhampton Wanderers

1960 Burnley

1961 Tottenham Hotspur

1962 Ipswich Town

1963 Everton

1964 Liverpool

1965 Manchester United

1966 Glasgow Celtic

1967 Glasgow Celtic

1968 Manchester City

1969 Leeds United

1970 Glasgow Celtic

1971 Glasgow Celtic

1972 Derby County

1973 Liverpool

1974 Linfield

1975 Derby County

1976 Liverpool

1977 Liverpool

1978 Nottingham Forest

1979 Liverpool

1980 Liverpool

1981 Aston Villa

1982 Liverpool

1983 Dundee United

1984 Aberdeen

1985 Aberdeen

1986 Liverpool

1987 Glasgow Rangers

1988 Liverpool

1989 Glasgow Rangers

1990 Glasgow Rangers

1991 Glasgow Rangers

1992 Glasgow Rangers

1993 Glasgow Rangers

1994 Manchester United

1995 Blackburn Rovers

1996 Manchester United

1997 Manchester United

1998 Linfield

1999 Manchester United

2000 Belfast Celtic

2001 Manchester United

2002 Arsenal

2003 Manchester United

2004 Arsenal

2005 Chelsea

2006 Chelsea

2007 Manchester United

2008 Glasgow Celtic

2009 Manchester United

2010 Chelsea

2011 Glasgow Rangers

2012 Manchester City

2013 Manchester United

2014 Manchester City

2015 Chelsea

2016 Glasgow Celtic

2017 Glasgow Celtic

 

Top teams in League.

 

All time list of record British League title winners.

1. Manchester United have 15 titles.

2. Glasgow Celtic have 14 titles.

2. Glasgow Rangers have 14 titles.

4. Liverpool have 13 titles.

5. Arsenal have 7 titles.

6. Aston Villa have 6 titles.

7. Sunderland have 5 titles

8. Chelsea have 4 titles.

8. Manchester City have 4 titles.

10. Everton have 3 titles.

10. Aberdeen have 3 titles.

10. Sheffield Wednesday have 3 titles.

10. Hibernian have 3 titles. 

IMO.

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5 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said:

IMO.

I stopped reading after the guy said he was an Aberdeen & Inverness fan.

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