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League Reconstruction 20/21 season

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45 minutes ago, Archie McSquackle said:

I can't see the Premiership agreeing to cut the number of games by that much, especially when the average attendance is likely to reduce. I also don't think a 7/7 split works very well as it leaves one team in each half not playing on a particular match day, including the final game of the season. I think they're more likely to go for a 6/8 home and away split giving 36 and 40 games. It wouldn't surprise me if the two lower leagues just play each other 3 times giving 39 games.

Having four extra rounds of fixtures between the worst teams in the division is a ridiculous (though commonly enough suggested) proposal. Just have two post split rounds making 38 games just like now, with 7th and 8th in the league going into the final set of fixtures (from week 32) scheduled to sit out instead of playing a probable dead rubber on the final day. 

30 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

The Inverness chairman/CEO/whatever was on Sportsound saying they'd be getting £300k, was he talking shite too?

It was Scott Gardiner of 'incompetent Dundee gobshite CEO' fame (as well as being both a former Hearts employee IIRC and a bitter currant) so probably yes.

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7 hours ago, Archie McSquackle said:

I can't see the Premiership agreeing to cut the number of games by that much, especially when the average attendance is likely to reduce. I also don't think a 7/7 split works very well as it leaves one team in each half not playing on a particular match day, including the final game of the season. I think they're more likely to go for a 6/8 home and away split giving 36 and 40 games. It wouldn't surprise me if the two lower leagues just play each other 3 times giving 39 games.

Schedule the teams seeded 7+8 to be idle on the last day ,thereby eliminating as much as possible the prospect of 2 teams colluding on the last day to a result that suits each other at the expense of the idle team .

The 6/8 split still leads to a lot of teams playing each other 4 times ,which is too much IMHO .

Agree re the loss of 6 games revenue , but as far as I understand it,the new TV deal will compensate for that .

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7 hours ago, Archie McSquackle said:

I can't see the Premiership agreeing to cut the number of games by that much, especially when the average attendance is likely to reduce. I also don't think a 7/7 split works very well as it leaves one team in each half not playing on a particular match day, including the final game of the season. I think they're more likely to go for a 6/8 home and away split giving 36 and 40 games. It wouldn't surprise me if the two lower leagues just play each other 3 times giving 39 games.

Ps if the TV deal isn't enough ,scrap the League Cup and replace it with a Premiership Cup,4 groups of 4, H+A,guaranteed 6 games,top of each group straight to semis.

Include the 2 relegated clubs from the previous season (compensation for relegation ),everybody below that in the Challenge Cup.

2 cups for all league teams ,still possible treble for the Premiership teams ,32 league +6 Premiership Cup =38 as now. 

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54 minutes ago, Doonhamer1969 said:

 

The 6/8 split still leads to a lot of teams playing each other 4 times ,which is too much IMHO .

Reconstruct the league to get rid of a guaranteed 4 games against teams in your division...

43 minutes ago, Doonhamer1969 said:

Ps if the TV deal isn't enough ,scrap the League Cup and replace it with a Premiership Cup,4 groups of 4, H+A,guaranteed 6 games,top of each group straight to semis.

Include the 2 relegated clubs from the previous season (compensation for relegation ),everybody below that in the Challenge Cup.

2 cups for all league teams ,still possible treble for the Premiership teams ,32 league +6 Premiership Cup =38 as now. 

... guarantee Premiership clubs play four games against each other.

Was the idea of playing each team 3 times a season in the league not scrapped due to the inherent shiteness of an unfair split of H/A games? That's not an issue lower league sides have.

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10 hours ago, Pet Jeden said:

Och,  they're entitled to have their opinion heard - at least as much as anonymous randoms on an online forum.

Don't think so.

You say anonymous randoms, I'd say the paying customer.

Footballers can have their say, particularly if the schedule is too demanding/not demanding enough etc but ultimately give them a fixture list at the start of the season and they'll play them. Their voice should be heard less than the fans.

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It should be 14-14-16 as it stinks that Kelty and Brora  are denied the opportunity to progress!
Cove don't get promoted under this either.

Clyde, Peterhead, Forfar and Stranraer are all relegated to the bottom tier as well.

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They're in the 3rd tier and they'd be in the 3rd tier in a 14-14-14 pyramid. 

They'd be in exactly the same place. 

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9 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

They're in the 3rd tier and they'd be in the 3rd tier in a 14-14-14 pyramid. 

They'd be in exactly the same place. 

They'd be in the bottom tier which isn't exactly the same place. 

 

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Just now, bennett said:

They'd be in the bottom tier which isn't exactly the same place. 

 

They'd be in the 3rd tier, like they are now. 

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22 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

They'd be in the 3rd tier, like they are now. 

Apples and pears.

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1 hour ago, ropy said:

Clyde are in 29th place, redraw the leagues and they are in 29th place.

I think the point is that they'd be swapping fixtures against teams ranked 23rd (Raith Rovers/Partick) to 28th (Dumbarton) for fixtures against teams ranked  33rd (Cove Rangers*) to 42nd(Brechin) which if not an actual relegation is at least quite like one.

 

 

 

* Assuming Cove didn't get promoted as "champions"

 

 

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Clyde are in 29th place, redraw the leagues and they are in 29th place.
They're in the 3rd tier and they'd be in the 3rd tier in a 14-14-14 pyramid. 
They'd be in exactly the same place. 
"Relegated". It's a sh*tty restructure but they are hardly relegated. 
If we finished bottom of league 1 we would be relegated and be playing the teams in league 2. Despite finishing 7th we would be playing the league 2 teams next season as part of this restructure.

In the current league 1 the prize money we can get is between £125k and £70k under the new structure it would be £77.5k to £45k. We couldn't finish any higher than 29th again next season.

We would be one relegation away from the LL rather than two.

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I'd have one professional league, a mostly professional league below that, two-up, two-down and a playoff for the third place.

10 teams each.

The rest in regional leagues.

 

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If we finished bottom of league 1 we would be relegated and be playing the teams in league 2. Despite finishing 7th we would be playing the league 2 teams next season as part of this restructure.

In the current league 1 the prize money we can get is between £125k and £70k under the new structure it would be £77.5k to £45k. We couldn't finish any higher than 29th again next season.

We would be one relegation away from the LL rather than two.
Swings and roundabouts. You would have a far better chance of being promoted to the championship too would you not? Really cant see many negatives with 3 leagues of 14.

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