League Reconstruction 20/21 season

[Jacksgranda]

37 minutes ago, btb said:

So really it was that dropped point against Celtic that made the difference....

That's both Dundee teams on the naughty step now...

[Green Day]

3 hours ago, JamesM82 said:

I'm just waiting for the Tom English meltdown when he finds out the Brechin guy is still on the board.

I am just annoyed he wasnt made honorary Grand Wizard or something.

[Tannadeechee]

59 minutes ago, Sarto Mutiny said:

Dundee United took 7 points from 8 against Celtic and 2 points from 8 against Hearts that season. We tried.

If only we'd "tried" against Hearts they would have been.third and we'd have been 1st or second. Much like if Hearts had beaten St Mirren this year they wouldn't have been bottom!

[Szamo's_Ammo]

14 minutes ago, gogsy said:

Even after the game v Hearts, Utd would have won the title on goal difference if they had beaten Clydebank (D 1-1 ) and St Mirren (L 1-2) .

The Fun would have done a St Maureen on the final day against Hearts if United had won those matches and were going to win the league.

Clydebank should be added to the Hearts Table of Hate imo.

Edited July 20, 2020 by Szamo's_Ammo

[Tannadeechee]

2 hours ago, Szamo's_Ammo said:

The Fun would have done a St Maureen on the final day against Hearts if United had won those matches and were going to win the league.

Clydebank should be added to the Hearts Table of Hate imo.

Why not, everyone else is there we don't want them feeling left out!

Edited July 20, 2020 by Tannadeechee

[Loonytoons]

Even after the game v Hearts, Utd would have won the title on goal difference if they had beaten Clydebank (D 1-1 ) and St Mirren (L 1-2) .

There's no way any of this happened. 3 way scrap for the title with 2 games to go and none of them were Rangers. Fantasy League thread for this pish.

[Bohemian]

So what's the latest lads? Arbitration start today or what? 

[Bailey1972]

1 hour ago, Bohemian said:

So what's the latest lads? Arbitration start today or what? 

Apparently so. What happens in the unlikely event that Hearts are reinstated? Given they are not due to start training until 30/07 can we expect another it's not fair campaign and they want the start of the League delayed.

[PauloPerth]

1 hour ago, Loonytoons said:

There's no way any of this happened. 3 way scrap for the title with 2 games to go and none of them were Rangers. Fantasy League thread for this pish.

Just looking back at the final table there to see how close it was, and got sidetracked looking at a few of the final tables around that era. I remember being a youngster at school in the 80's with the new firm of Alex Ferguson's Aberdeen and Jim McLean's United teams being competitive and up there with the OF for a few years, but I never realised how incredibly consistent both clubs were for a decent number of seasons. Here's their finishing positions for the 18 seasons from 1976-77 upto 1993-94:

Aberdeen:                3,2,4,1,2,2,3,1,1,4,4,4,2,2,2,6,2,2

Dundee United:     4,3,3,4,5,4,1,3,3,3,3,5,4,4,4,4,4,6

 

In a six year period in the eighties, there were only two OF title wins, including 3 consecutive seasons with no OF titles. Must have been brilliant. You realise even more how stale and shite our top league has become because of the financial clout of the big two.

 

 

[Snifter Pee Rot]

25 minutes ago, Bailey1972 said:

Apparently so. What happens in the unlikely event that Hearts are reinstated? Given they are not due to start training until 30/07 can we expect another it's not fair campaign and they want the start of the League delayed.

 

Since when do pub sides need training camps to have a run out?

[Ranaldo Bairn]

13 hours ago, PauloPerth said:

Just looking back at the final table there to see how close it was, and got sidetracked looking at a few of the final tables around that era. I remember being a youngster at school in the 80's with the new firm of Alex Ferguson's Aberdeen and Jim McLean's United teams being competitive and up there with the OF for a few years, but I never realised how incredibly consistent both clubs were for a decent number of seasons. Here's their finishing positions for the 18 seasons from 1976-77 upto 1993-94:

Aberdeen:                3,2,4,1,2,2,3,1,1,4,4,4,2,2,2,6,2,2

Dundee United:     4,3,3,4,5,4,1,3,3,3,3,5,4,4,4,4,4,6

 

In a six year period in the eighties, there were only two OF title wins, including 3 consecutive seasons with no OF titles. Must have been brilliant. You realise even more how stale and shite our top league has become because of the financial clout of the big two.

 

 

It was brilliant.

But of course the da's of this world harked back to the 60's especially (snore) 1967.

But if you look back to the papers of the late 60s, THEY were complaining about how far we had fallen! 

The "It's shite being Scottish" brigade really have got a cottage industry on the go.

Edited July 21, 2020 by Ranaldo Bairn

[Loonytoons]

39 minutes ago, PauloPerth said:

Just looking back at the final table there to see how close it was, and got sidetracked looking at a few of the final tables around that era. I remember being a youngster at school in the 80's with the new firm of Alex Ferguson's Aberdeen and Jim McLean's United teams being competitive and up there with the OF for a few years, but I never realised how incredibly consistent both clubs were for a decent number of seasons. Here's their finishing positions for the 18 seasons from 1976-77 upto 1993-94:

Aberdeen:                3,2,4,1,2,2,3,1,1,4,4,4,2,2,2,6,2,2

Dundee United:     4,3,3,4,5,4,1,3,3,3,3,5,4,4,4,4,4,6

 

In a six year period in the eighties, there were only two OF title wins, including 3 consecutive seasons with no OF titles. Must have been brilliant. You realise even more how stale and shite our top league has become because of the financial clout of the big two.

 

 

Aye, I grew up through that too.  My Dad took me to the United European games and a fair few United v Aberdeen games.  Rangers were an irrelevance for half a decade in the 80's, Celtic less so but few titles.  Funny how the redtops never complained that Scottish football needed a strong OF back then. 

The national team was probably at it's best during that period too, 78-86 squads undoubtedly under performed but could have beaten anyone on their day.  Strange how the SFA don't look back to those years and wonder if the redistribution of money may have had the biggest impact on the decline of national team.

[Shotgun]

2 hours ago, Loonytoons said:

The national team was probably at it's best during that period too, 78-86 squads undoubtedly under performed but could have beaten anyone on their day.  Strange how the SFA don't look back to those years and wonder if the redistribution of money may have had the biggest impact on the decline of national team.

We just need to allow Celtic and Sevco Colts teams in the lower leagues and in a couple of years Spain, France, Germany and Brazil will be shiting it if they get drawn against us. 

[renton]

Presumably Hearts and Thistle submitted their responses to the SFA yesterday for breaking the rules regarding going to the courts...

[DA Baracus]

8 hours ago, Loonytoons said:

Aye, I grew up through that too.  My Dad took me to the United European games and a fair few United v Aberdeen games.  Rangers were an irrelevance for half a decade in the 80's, Celtic less so but few titles.  Funny how the redtops never complained that Scottish football needed a strong OF back then. 

The national team was probably at it's best during that period too, 78-86 squads undoubtedly under performed but could have beaten anyone on their day.  Strange how the SFA don't look back to those years and wonder if the redistribution of money may have had the biggest impact on the decline of national team.

Since they aren't the league body who distribute money, what difference wouldn it make if they did look back to then?

[Dundee Hibernian]

3 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Since they aren't the league body who distribute money, what difference wouldn it make if they did look back to then?

to be fair, the poster was writing about the national team, therefore the SFA could bring pressure on the league organisation through something innovative, like, let's think, Project Brave.

[DA Baracus]

Project Brave costs the clubs more. It has nothing to do with the distribution of money.

[craigkillie]

Project Brave costs the clubs more. It has nothing to do with the distribution of money.

It has everything to do with the distribution of money. The clubs who have achieved Elite level are given far more funding than the others.

[DA Baracus]

Much negated by the costs of achieving that status.

[AJF]

9 hours ago, Loonytoons said:

Aye, I grew up through that too.  My Dad took me to the United European games and a fair few United v Aberdeen games.  Rangers were an irrelevance for half a decade in the 80's, Celtic less so but few titles.  Funny how the redtops never complained that Scottish football needed a strong OF back then. 

The national team was probably at it's best during that period too, 78-86 squads undoubtedly under performed but could have beaten anyone on their day.  Strange how the SFA don't look back to those years and wonder if the redistribution of money may have had the biggest impact on the decline of national team.

The biggest factor in the decline of the national team is that other countries have invested heavily in coaching and youth development and left Scotland trailing.