Guest 8GamesToGo Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Just now, TonyFerrino said: Why is that? Lower leagues not even scheduled to start yet. You'll be fine. Interdict incoming, or back to court. I don't think so, but the way things are going I wouldn't bet against it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Just now, welshbairn said: I think he meant the maximum sanction could be out of proportion to the offence, but he accepted the rule, otherwise he wouldn't have sent it to arbitration. I've read Lord Clark's opinion again and, although he makes reference to the severity of the penalties, I'm not 100% clear on that. The reference to the severity of the penalties is in parenthesis. "On the advice of responsible counsel, Hearts and Partick Thistle brought these proceeding in court alleging unfair prejudice on that and several other grounds. In my opinion, questions may arise as to whether in that context a bar on raising legal proceedings without the permission of the Board of the SFA, subjecting a club to potentially extreme sanctions..., can be viewed as contrary to public policy and hence unlawful." In any case, being contractually obliged to go to arbitration and being punished for not doing so initially are two different things. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 8GamesToGo Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Stag Nation said: So Hearts and PT will have to go before an SFA panel to explain why they went to court. Answer - "We didnae trust an SFA panel". That will go down well. Would the SFA panel have insisted ALL panel members were corporate law specialists with lots of experience, would documents have been released in a timely way without Lord Clark's threat to take it back to court, and would they have committed to doing it in a timely way without Lord Clark's insistence it happened quickly? And would we have had any chance of a public hearing without going to court first, albeit it seems that was never on the cards it arbitration was always the venue for this? Edited July 14, 2020 by 8GamesToGo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Ooft. Starting the season on -25 pts when the season is already 9 games down would mean Hearts would only be able to achieve 56 pts if they won all their games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorky Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, 8GamesToGo said: Interdict incoming, or back to court. I don't think so, but the way things are going I wouldn't bet against it. Personally I think an interdict would just make things even worse not better. But if Hearts decide to go down this route then so be it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) It's Partick Thistle- being taken along for the ride, in too deep now to get out- that I feel sorry for in all this. It will be a wee shame when Hearts drop them like a Bosnian's pension fund. Edited July 14, 2020 by Szamo's_Ammo 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Hearing the death penalty, for treason, being considered for Hearts and Partick. I am pro life and take no pleasure in reporting this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Glorious, glorious work from the SFA. Also great to see Pet spamming the forum again with the usual standard of whiny, snivelling nonsense. Delicious stuff. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Junior Pub League said: I think most of them are just too far up the Budge to realise they have been played like chumps by their board, lapping up the nonsense that has come out of the club and ignoring the bigger issues of why they are deservedly now a seaside league team going to shitholes like Arborath. Nothing wrong with Arbroath. 9 minutes ago, TonyFerrino said: Why is that? Lower leagues not even scheduled to start yet. You'll be fine. They are scheduled to start. 17th October. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I think the SFA panel should punish them by allowing them to only play 3/4 of the new season and stop. Then allow everyone else to complete their season. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 8GamesToGo Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Yorky said: Personally I think an interdict would just make things even worse not better. But if Hearts decide to go down this route then so be it. Agree completely. We do seem to be getting backed into a corner though. As I say there was always a fairer solution. I hope we stick with it now, even an interdict or maybe court of arbitration for sport, or does the SFA have a rule against standing up for yourselves there too? Worst that can happen for Hearts is a fine we'll be able to pay and a year or three more in the lower leagues. It's honestly PT that everyone is fucking over the most here, especially given their game in hand. Total disgrace and completely avoidable if the football community had stuck together from the start like other industries - and indeed other football leagues - have done. Edited July 14, 2020 by 8GamesToGo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: It's Partick Thistle- being taken along for the ride, in too deep now to get out- that I feel sorry for in all this. It will be a wee shame when Hearts drop them like a Bosnian's pension fund. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyFerrino Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Good job, Agent Rodders. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, 8GamesToGo said: Dunno. Anyone who wants football to start in August should probably be more worried now. Yeah I'm shitting it... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkthebigclub Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Well Well said: I think the SFA panel should punish them by allowing them to only play 3/4 of the new season and stop. Then allow everyone else to complete their season. 8 games, Shirley? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I can't imagine the SFA actually dishing out any sort of major punishment for these two clubs. They have quite clearly broken the rule, but I'd expect them to just be censured for it as long as they don't attempt to go back to the courts and drag the whole thing out. They've already had a very embarrassing public dressing down in the courts from Lord Clark, I reckon that is probably punishment enough. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 8GamesToGo Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Just now, Bohemian said: Yeah I'm shitting it... A four times a year experience for you usually. You must be looking forward to the break. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Good job, Agent Rodders.A return from sick leave for the ages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyFerrino Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 minute ago, DA Baracus said: They are scheduled to start. 17th October. I missed that. Cheers. Still plenty of time for them to continue their crusade for fairness then. Should help with her multitasking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Just now, 8GamesToGo said: A four times a year experience for you usually. You must be looking forward to the break. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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