Gorgie greatness Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Just now, djchapsticks said: Yes. Finished. Not sure if you noticed but you voted to finish the season. So it's by definition 'finished'. You voted to finish the season to avoid 8 less chances to be flushed out the league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Pet Jeden said: Board made a decision. In a sloppy fashion, in the view of some. In a couple of weeks we could have been playing out the last 8 games, like down south. Rather than do that, a choice was made to the benefit of some and at the expense of others. Not surprisingly, that decision will need to have been irreproachable. Jesus christ, you've been arguing for so long and you still don't even actually seem to know the situation. They. Put. It. To. A. Vote. The vast majority of teams voted it through, but more importantly enough for the vote to pass. Whether we could have done this or done that is far more irrelevant here rather than elsewhere, because the majority of clubs agreed it was not viable to continue playing and gave the governing body the permission to end it. 34 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: Then there was Dundeegate You and other Jambos keep suggesting this is the smoking gun in your case. I have yet to see one Jambo elaborate on how exactly this affects anything, or provide any clear evidence that anything shady even happened there other than a bit of a f**k up. Simple fact is, while a club cannot retract a 'Yes' vote, they can retract a 'No' vote. It's a big fat nothing burger. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Just now, Gorgie greatness said: You voted to finish the season to avoid 8 less chances to be flushed out the league. Just as well they used the 30 chances before to avoid it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, johnnydun said: Did the SPFL have to set up a reconstruction working group? Did the SPFL have to come up with any solution at all? Did Hearts finish in the relegation spot at the end of the season in line with the rules? No, they changed the rules to end the season. Hence the need for an 80% vote. In theory could have finished the league much later in the year. But to clear the decks for the new SKY contract and Celtic’s CL campaign, they rushed it through in 48hrs with the £9m money carrot. However much you don’t like Hearts (or Partick or Falkirk) and however much some clubs need their SKY fix, that was underhand and wrong. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gorgie greatness said: You voted to finish the season to avoid 8 less chances to be flushed out the league. Pigeon English notwithstanding, you also voted to finish the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenHibee Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gorgie greatness said: You voted to finish the season to avoid 8 less chances to be flushed out the league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenHibee Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gorgie greatness said: You voted to finish the season to avoid 8 less chances to be flushed out the league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Pigeon English notwithstanding, you also voted to finish the season. Erm, Chapsticks. It’s pidgin. Duh! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparticus Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: No, they changed the rules to end the season. Hence the need for an 80% vote. In theory could have finished the league much later in the year. But to clear the decks for the new SKY contract and Celtic’s CL campaign, they rushed it through in 48hrs with the £9m money carrot. However much you don’t like Hearts (or Partick or Falkirk) and however much some clubs need their SKY fix, that was underhand and wrong. They couldnt finish it later in the year.The clubs needed the payout at the time they thought they were getting it.These clubs dont have a megajambo who will chuck millions for fun and to avoid relegation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munoz Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Hearts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Just now, Pet Jeden said: Erm, Chapsticks. It’s pidgin. Duh! Ah well, it still checks out phonetically. Doesn't change the fact that Hearts voted in favour of the season not being able to be completed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie greatness Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, AberdeenHibee said: How often do you reuse this on a weekly basis? Got any new patter ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: No, they changed the rules to end the season. Hence the need for an 80% vote. In theory could have finished the league much later in the year. But to clear the decks for the new SKY contract and Celtic’s CL campaign, they rushed it through in 48hrs with the £9m money carrot. However much you don’t like Hearts (or Partick or Falkirk) and however much some clubs need their SKY fix, that was underhand and wrong. The 'rushed through in 48 hours' vote wasn't the vote to end the season. That was the vote to decide how to divvy up the points if the season ended early. It didn't end the season early. The 'end the season' vote for the Premiership came much later and, to date, there has been no public dispute about the conduct of it. and it was unanimous, with Hearts voting for it, even when it knew the result of the prior vote. If you, or Hearts, are contending that the season should have been played out to completion, you have absolutely zero moral or legal leg to stand on, since Hearts actually supported it at the time, without any complaints. Edited June 12, 2020 by Aim Here 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 This court case will be brilliant.Hearts: The league was finished too early, it's unfair, we could have got out of the relegation zone.Judge: Why did you vote to finish the league?Hearts: ........!!!........eh....... successful business woman...!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenHibee Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Gorgie greatness said: How often do you reuse this on a weekly basis? Got any new patter ? 2nd time I have used this Gorgie, which is apt as this is the 2nd time you lot have been relegated in 6 years! Hopefully the Championship forum appreciates your word salads as much as we all do. x Edited June 12, 2020 by AberdeenHibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: No, they changed the rules to end the season. Hence the need for an 80% vote. In theory could have finished the league much later in the year. But to clear the decks for the new SKY contract and Celtic’s CL campaign, they rushed it through in 48hrs with the £9m money carrot. However much you don’t like Hearts (or Partick or Falkirk) and however much some clubs need their SKY fix, that was underhand and wrong. No rules were changed in regards to Hearts going down. The only rule that was changed was to have no play offs. Are those clubs complaining? No, because it is unprecedented circumstances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, AberdeenHibee said: 2nd time I have used this Gorgie, which is apt as this is the 2nd time you lot have been relegated in 6 years! Hopefully the Championship forum appreciates your word salads as much as we all do. x No, we don't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenHibee Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Aim Here said: The 'rushed through in 48 hours' vote wasn't the vote to end the season. That was the vote to decide how to divvy up the points if the season ended early. It didn't end the season early. The 'end the season' vote for the Premiership came much later and, to date, there has been no public dispute about the conduct of it. and it was unanimous, with Hearts voting for it, even when it knew the result of the prior vote. If you, or Hearts, are contending that the season should have been played out to completion, you have absolutely zero moral or legal leg to stand on, since Hearts actually supported it at the time, without any complaints. Pet Jeden, go to bed m8 it's getting embarrassing now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner-to-Saint Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Romeo said: This court case will be brilliant. Hearts: The league was finished too early, it's unfair, we could have got out of the relegation zone. Judge: Why did you vote to finish the league? Hearts: ........!!!........eh....... successful business woman...!! But acknowledging the remaining fixtures cannot be played is not the same as relegating the club that finishes bottom. I suppose that would be a novel way of making the league more exciting in future. The SPFL could spin a kind of roulette wheel after each round of fixtures, and if it lands on a particular number we could just relegate the bottom placed clubs, before resuming the league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanislav Petrov Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 You would think St Mirren fans would be more sympathetic to our case considering reconstruction saved them before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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