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Leagues One and Two wouldn't give them what they wanted so we will just ignore them and send a letter to the top two divisions.
Fucking democracy, eh?


I’m not a political science expert but Horse trading, loaded promises, unholy alliances, competing attempts to manipulate the news agenda and people pursuing naked self interest are pretty common features in democracies as far as I can see

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Can see this going through but with 14/10/10/10 will keep the majority of lower league teams happy, especially the L1 teams who are getting “relegated” in the 14/14/14 set up.

 

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Just now, Samsonite said:

Can see this going through but with 14/10/10/10 will keep the majority of lower league teams happy, especially the L1 teams who are getting “relegated” in the 14/14/14 set up.

 

Where are the other 2 clubs coming from?

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The League One/Two clubs get no say if the top two divisions vote to go 14-14.

We would also have no say if said leagues decided to reduce relegation to one team per season.

Both would adversely affect many clubs in League One and League Two. It is a disgrace that they are being denied their say, purely because Doncaster, Budge and her rich mate have decided they might not say what they want to hear.

Edited by Bully Wee Villa

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29 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said:

Leagues One and Two wouldn't give them what they wanted so we will just ignore them and send a letter to the top two divisions.

Fucking democracy, eh?

They are still involved.

The Premiership need to vote 11-1 in favour as the prize pot changes.

The Championship and lower league votes are same as last week because they will all change as a result of this, including (one assumes) the "winner" of next years championship getting considerably smaller wedge  than Dundee Utd got this season - £160k less.

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If reconstruction goes through and it doesn’t involve Brora & Kelty then it’s a disgrace

Either bend the fucking rules for all clubs affected or none at all 

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6 minutes ago, Green Day said:

Where are the other 2 clubs coming from?

Kelty and Brora?

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1 minute ago, welshbairn said:

Kelty and Brora?

So the lower league clubs need to vote for less money.

Not having a go at you by the way, but do we really see that passing the vote in the current climate?

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4 minutes ago, Green Day said:

So the lower league clubs need to vote for less money.

Not having a go at you by the way, but do we really see that passing the vote in the current climate?

Which is why they need to be paid off/compensated for their inconvenience

Hearts aren't going to get anywhere by appealing to these people's better natures

Edited by topcat(The most tip top)

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59 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

The proposal to end the season (from April, not March) came from the SPFL Board, of which he is a member alongside various representatives from different divisions. It was claimed at the time that this was based on requests from several clubs, particularly those in the lower leagues, and that was borne out by the fact that the vast majority of the clubs voted in favour of it.

The current proposal is directly linked to that, in the sense that the April paper included a commitment to explore league reconstruction. Therefore the idea of at least discussing league reconstruction was the will of all of the clubs who voted in favour of that proposal (in addition to many of those who voted against it). Budge was put in charge of that committee, which ultimately made a pigs ear of the whole thing to the extent that they couldn't even reach enough agreement to produce a proposal that the clubs could vote on.

It's worth noting that there were several other committees meeting at the same time on a number of issues as part of the SFA/SPFL Joint Response Group, and Doncaster himself was chairing the one related to broadcasting rights. Possibly he now has a bit more time on his hands now that he's sorted that out.

The proposal to end the season (from April, not March) - Paper was circulated Wed 8th April. It would have been drafted/redrafted/run by McLennan a while before that.

the idea of at least discussing league reconstruction was the will of all of the clubs - But Doncaster was so committed to exploring this that he just let Budge do it

couldn't even reach enough agreement to produce a proposal that the clubs could vote on. - If only she could have attached a £9m "carrot/bribe/incentive/perk/sweetener" to a proposal, eh?

now that he's sorted that out. - sorted it out? Aye, right. He lost £10m of last years £25m SKY money and we don't know yet how much of the BT money.  And as I keep telling you, some bad news about next season's SKY money is surely in the post.

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@Green Day

Why are you sure lower league clubs will get any say? You seem to understand the voting procedure better than me so could you explain for me please? It seems to me Leagues One and Two are being put out of the loop, but I'll happily be corrected.

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What a shambles its become.

A complete laughing stock now.

"No we all don't want , and can't have reconstruction"

Wafts 5 mill in front of Doncaster

" Lets talk about a 14 team top league "

Wonder how this will go  , i personally welcome a 14 team league but not under the pretense of this  judas laced bribery.

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Can we be sure that Mr Anderson isn't actually a Trojan Horse ? If we're talking about a pot of (only) £2 million,  surely successful businesswomen Ann Budge could dip into her own bulging bank account for such a middling amount instead of begging it from Anderson. Of course, if the 'philanthropic donation' really was from Budge the bribe would be too obvious. No, a deception of some kind would be required. 

To be continued ....... ?

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3 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said:

@Green Day

Why are you sure lower league clubs will get any say? You seem to understand the voting procedure better than me so could you explain for me please? It seems to me Leagues One and Two are being put out of the loop, but I'll happily be corrected.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52822935

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1 minute ago, Green Day said:

Ah, thanks. Sounds like not as bad as I thought then. 

Is there any possibility of an SPL-style breakaway if the top league voted for it? That would cut out the need to obtain lower league support, wouldn't it?

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4 minutes ago, Green Day said:
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Eleven Scottish Premiership clubs would have to back it, with just two dissenting voices in a top-flight meeting on Monday enough to defeat the plan before Budge could even canvass the support of her own division, the Championship

Ooh, bitchy.

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3 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said:

Ah, thanks. Sounds like not as bad as I thought then. 

Is there any possibility of an SPL-style breakaway if the top league voted for it? That would cut out the need to obtain lower league support, wouldn't it?

No chance. No need.

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8 minutes ago, VanCityHibee said:

What a shambles its become.

A complete laughing stock now.

"No we all don't want , and can't have reconstruction"

Wafts 5 mill in front of Doncaster

" Lets talk about a 14 team top league "

Wonder how this will go  , i personally welcome a 14 team league but not under the pretense of this  judas laced bribery.

But the £9m that was offered for ending the leagues - that was fine, eh?

tbf your lot are voting against anything that isn't aimed at inflicting pain on us. Quite right too. That's your job. 

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1 minute ago, Pet Jeden said:

But the £9m that was offered for ending the leagues - that was fine, eh?

tbf your lot are voting against anything that isn't aimed at inflicting pain on us. Quite right too. That's your job. 

The prize pot you mean? That was obviously fine.

Hibs always vote for what is the right thing to do, nothing partisan - you do understand that Hearts in the Championship doesnt exactly generate cash for us?

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34 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

 


I’m not a political science expert but Horse trading, loaded promises, unholy alliances, competing attempts to manipulate the news agenda and people pursuing naked self interest are pretty common features in democracies as far as I can see

 

 

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