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3 minutes ago, Green Day said:

Is that true (not doubting you, obvs I am not on their database !)  ?

The messaging coming from them is very confusing. First we were told that they faced financial meltdown, then we were told (yesterday) that the FoH and Benefactor dough would see them through, and now this today.

Its almost like they dont have a coherent strategy.............

 

Seems there's a 10% refund on next season's season ticket. Which is admittedly better than the £25-off voucher that the Rangers fans will get.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hearts-confirm-season-ticket-refund-18324096

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1 minute ago, Green Day said:

Is that true (not doubting you, obvs I am not on their database !)  ?

The messaging coming from them is very confusing. First we were told that they faced financial meltdown, then we were told (yesterday) that the FoH and Benefactor dough would see them through, and now this today.

Its almost like they dont have a coherent strategy.............

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-make-season-ticket-refund-22101021.amp

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The email reads: "The complete shutdown of Scottish football and related revenue streams unfortunately means we are not in a position to offer refunds to season ticket holders for outstanding fixtures.

"The financial impact on the club would be significant.


"The overwhelming feedback we have had from supporters is that they understand the challenges we face and that any sort of refund would not be expected.

"This no refund policy is also in line with the club's season ticket terms and conditions.

"We don't underestimate the impact that the pandemic will be having on many and assure you that, if we were in a position to do so, we would offer a refund option."

They'll still sign some Scott Dobie on £12k a week though. 

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24 minutes ago, Aim Here said:

Seems there's a 10% refund on next season's season ticket. Which is admittedly better than the £25-off voucher that the Rangers fans will get.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hearts-confirm-season-ticket-refund-18324096

They'll be playing in a lower tier next season though, so it's really not. 

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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5643355/hearts-budge-bully-spfl-restructure-nonsense-peterhead-mcinally/amp/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter

McInally believes lower-league clubs are being used as cannon fodder to save the Jambos’ skin, with the likes of Cove Rangers denied going up a level and others risking mass relegations in future.

 

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4 hours ago, Bohemian said:

20 plus 20 does not make 42... Other than that, great idea..😂

How about two of 22 then?   Hearts don't go down, everyone in the second and fourth tiers gets promoted, you can still swap Raith and Partick, give Cove and Dundee Utd a trophy, and Brora & Kelty come in.

To make the next season more interesting for more clubs for longer, make it five up five down. 

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3 minutes ago, Green Day said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5643355/hearts-budge-bully-spfl-restructure-nonsense-peterhead-mcinally/amp/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter

McInally believes lower-league clubs are being used as cannon fodder to save the Jambos’ skin, with the likes of Cove Rangers denied going up a level and others risking mass relegations in future.

 

man slapping couch laughing GIF

 

Wouldn't Cove Rangers be going from the 4th tier to the 3rd tier tho?

 

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Just now, bennett said:

Wouldn't Cove Rangers be going from the 4th tier to the 3rd tier tho?

 

Or staying in the bottom tier.  Depends on perspective.

Not sure about this though...

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Nobody wants Hearts to be relegated

...think there might be a few around Easter Road way who would disagree.

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There’s a simple reason the top league gets first vote on this.  It’s to kill it.  If the rest of the leagues come together and agree to this then the pressure on no voting teams become huge.  Not that it seems to matter judging by what’s coming out the lower leagues.

 

This will be rejected at the first hurdle but that won’t be the end of reconstruction.  It will be for the premier league sure, but I’m willing to bet in a statement there will be a comment along the lines of “ while we can’t agree to reconstruction in the premier league at this time.  We will however not reject any reasonable reconstruction proposal for the Scottish championship and downwards”.

Now I’ve said this reconstruction idea before and I will write it again.  But I think two things about it.

One.  It is actually quite fair

Two.  It is actually really funny too.

We have four leagues of 12.  We bring up Kelty, Brora, Loco and Bonnyrigg.  We don’t relegate Thistle and Stranraer.  We let Falkirk and Edinburgh City up.  There we go leagues are the exact size, they can vote on having a split too.  Only one team actually gets relegated and we can give them some compensation.

 

Also you can bet if next season there’s a half season in the championship, you can bet whoever is bottom of the premier league will be screaming about it being unfair for them to be relegated when Hearts or Dundee have only played 18 games.  I’d expect that caveat to be mentioned in the reconstruction rejection also.

 

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1 minute ago, bennett said:

Wouldn't Cove Rangers be going from the 4th tier to the 3rd tier tho?

 

This in no way though, is a 'promotion'. They'd still be playing the same other 9 clubs they had last season plus the 4 bottom teams in League One.

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1 minute ago, bennett said:

Wouldn't Cove Rangers be going from the 4th tier to the 3rd tier tho?

Most of the teams they'd be playing against would be the ones they were playing against the season they got 'promoted', so it's pretty much no promotion at all.

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1 minute ago, bennett said:

Wouldn't Cove Rangers be going from the 4th tier to the 3rd tier tho?

 

And immediately being forced to cover the same ground by playing all the teams they battered last season. Very fair indeed... 

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1 minute ago, bennett said:

Wouldn't Cove Rangers be going from the 4th tier to the 3rd tier tho?

 

Just as the third tier becomes the bottom tier.

So they're going from the bottom tier to the erm bottom tier.

Not much of a promotion that.

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2 minutes ago, bluearmyfaction said:

Or staying in the bottom tier.  Depends on perspective.

Not sure about this though...

...think there might be a few around Easter Road way who would disagree.

Plenty from Love Street, Dens Park and Parkhead I'd imagine too.

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A similar idea was mooted 7 years ago by the spfl, which would have seen us remain in the bottom tier for a second season.  Scottish fitba assured us that we would be moving from the 4th to the 3rd tier, so we wouldn't have been denied a promotion. 

I'm guessing that this is different. 

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6 minutes ago, Aim Here said:

Most of the teams they'd be playing against would be the ones they were playing against the season they got 'promoted', so it's pretty much no promotion at all.

Agreed...

It’s exactly same position as Peterhead, Clyde and perhaps Forfar. I’m not sure why some people don’t see this as a problem for supporters of all these teams including Cove.

Extremely unfair and contrary to what Budge says disadvantages the clubs.

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6 minutes ago, bennett said:

A similar idea was mooted 7 years ago by the spfl, which would have seen us remain in the bottom tier for a second season.  Scottish fitba assured us that we would be moving from the 4th to the 3rd tier, so we wouldn't have been denied a promotion. 

I'm guessing that this is different. 

Well, it didnt happen then - why was that?

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