tree house tam Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Tbh I always just assumed, since I'd never really seen much game time from that era, it was just auld c***s like @tree house tam being auld c***s. Seeing George O'Boyle in his prime was surreal, would easily put any striker we've had in the past decade to shame with how good he is on the ball. In my "auld c**t" lifetime, which by the way isn't that old imo, there have been plenty decent forwards at Saints. Brogan, Grant, Wright, O'Boyle, Scotland, Sandaza are all better than what we have just now, never mind better than Chris fucking Kane. The list for better than Chris Kane would take me all afternoon to type up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, RossBFaeDundee said: Assumed this was just your usual Daily Record taking a snippet of the statement, and making a headline out it to make you read it. Turns out she literally says Hearts shouldn't be relegated because they spent a lot of money to try and avoid it. Mental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassnahalf Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Have a 14 team Premier Division by all means but split it into Premier A and Premier B sections. The A section would be limited to Glasgow clubs and B the rest. The Bigot brothers could then play each other every other week and Sky would be creaming their y-fronts at the prospect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 17 hours ago, kingjoey said: Even if there is reconstruction, in the name of sporting integrity the three relegated teams must still be relegated to play in the league below. 'The Big Maroon Hoose must stay open!' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 She needs 11-1 in the SPFL................well, theres one against already. I cant imagine Hearts fans are too pleased with this performance (interview with Hearts fan Nicky Campbell this morning on 5 Live). Hearts owner Ann Budge insists no league title should be awarded and no club should be relegated following the Scottish Professional Football League's vote to end the season early. Budge admits relegation would be a double setback for Hearts and maintains rules have been altered by the controversial poll to end the campaign after the coronavirus shutdown. The Edinburgh club face dropping into the Championship next season unless league reconstruction is agreed. Budge, the majority shareholder at Tynecastle Park, is leading a task force aimed at restructuring Scottish football with the Hamilton vice-chair Les Gray. They need an 11-1 vote from Premiership clubs, plus 75 per cent in the Championship and 75 per cent across League One and League Two to pass any reconstruction plan. Failure to do so would send Hearts down as the club currently bottom of Scotland's top flight. All three lower divisions have been brought to an end and respective titles awarded to Dundee United, Raith Rovers and Cove Rangers. Partick Thistle and Stranraer are poised to be relegated. Brechin City sit bottom of League Two but will not face a play-off to stay in the division as all play-offs have been cancelled as per the SPFL vote. The Premiership officially remains suspended for now until UEFA approve moves to bring top leagues across the Continent to a conclusion. That is likely to happen later this month, confirming Celtic as winners and consigning Hearts to relegation. Budge stressed it would be unfair to punish any club already suffering due to the financial downturn brought by the global pandemic. She also argued that titles should not be awarded and repeated her anger at how the whole voting process was handled by the SPFL. "We [Hearts] got off to a shocking start at the beginning of the season and hadn't quite climbed out of yet, so we were sitting bottom of the league when the league was suspended. Why am I angry? I'm angry because I think this whole process has been very badly handled. That's my first complaint," she told BBC Radio 5 Live. "We were presented with one option to vote on, the consequences of which were that promotion was allowed but relegation would also stand. Essentially I don't think very many people had a problem with promotion – with the probable exception of Rangers – but almost everyone had a problem with relegating clubs in the middle of what is an absolutely awful experience for all of us globally. "My biggest argument is: Let's find the fairest way possible to address the situation, and that means people shouldn't be penalised. Nobody gains from having relegation, nobody gains at all. “Clubs just lose on top of everything else they are suffering – unfairness, the fact that a number of rules were changed, clearly it's an impossible situation but some of the rules were changed. “You shouldn't be awarded a title if you haven't played 38 games; you shouldn't be relegated if you haven't played 38 games, and all sorts of other things in between. Some rules were changed, others weren't. "It's not yet applying to the Premiership but, the fact it has now been implemented for the other three leagues, I can't see how they can possibly apply one set of rules for the Premiership and a different set for the other three. “Almost by definition, the decision has been made. The only reason the Premiership hasn't been included is to keep options open for UEFA – to ensure we don't fall foul of calling the league early an druling ourselves out of European competitions. "To be fair for everyone, if you are going to make promotions when the league isn't finished, and therefore we are rewarding people who have invested to try and achieve success, then I think we should also be recognising that some of us have made substantial investments to try to avoid relegation. As I said, I don't think anyone gains from relegation." Budge explained why she feels any club relegated right now will suffer an ill-deserved double whammy as they try to cope without income from matches. "I wrote to the SPFL the day after the leagues were suspended and said: 'Please, whatever you do, ensure that all clubs are consulted over this matter. It shouldn't be a board decision, it should be an all-club decision. Can you please ensure we keep the fairness principle in mind and don't add additional financial penalties to any club already experiencing everththing that we all are?' "So I think it is a double hit. I also indicated in that letter that I thought we should take the opportunity while we had it to look at: Could we do something with the leagues to avoid penalising anyone? I've been talking about this since the leagues were suspended." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Assumed this was just your usual Daily Record taking a snippet of the statement, and making a headline out it to make you read it. Turns out she literally says Hearts shouldn't be relegated because they spent a lot of money to try and avoid it. Mental. Queen Ann knows the score. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Assumed this was just your usual Daily Record taking a snippet of the statement, and making a headline out it to make you read it. Turns out she literally says Hearts shouldn't be relegated because they spent a lot of money to try and avoid it. Mental. When she came out with that pish, did nobody question her??? The retort is pretty simple. "You're bottom of the league" "But we spent loads" "You're bottom of the league" And so on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lofarl Posted April 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2020 “You didn’t win the lottery.“ “But I spent a lot on tickets” 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Ann Budge is a fucking clown 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 2 hours ago, tree house tam said: The standard has been declining in Scottish football for years, while costs have been going up. Footballers at clubs from 2nd place in the premiership down to the bottom level are laughable, most need 3 touches to control a ball and are so one footed I could play against them. The clubs in the top flight are at least able to afford their squads now though; even that’s not the case in the second tier. Losing money and getting diminishing returns is a recipe for the arse collapsing out of professional football below the top flight: which was the problem already facing clubs before this sudden shutdown and economic slump occurred. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lofarl said: “You didn’t win the lottery.“ “But I spent a lot on tickets” You know it's bad when you can analogise Ann Budge with Elliot Rodger. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) Far be it from me to drop fact into you lads' lives, but what Budge said is it's bollocks to say Dundee United HAVE to come up at Hearts expense because they've spent hunners on Shankland, because we too have spent hunners on Boyce etc. It's not a particularly difficult argument to grasp tbh, and yet here we are. Edited April 17, 2020 by JamieThomas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 A bit of long article from the queen of hearts but she does make a few valid points. "Budge stressed it would be unfair to punish any club already suffering due to the financial downturn brought by the global pandemic. She also argued that titles should not be awarded and repeated her anger at how the whole voting process was handled by the SPFL." " You shouldn't be awarded a title if you haven't played 38 games; you shouldn't be relegated if you haven't played 38 games, and all sorts of other things in between. Some rules were changed, others weren't" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, JamieThomas said: Far be it from me to drop fact into you lads' lives, but what Budge said is it's bollocks to say Dundee United HAVE to come up at Hearts expense because they've spent hunners on Shankland, because we too have spent hunners on Boyce etc. It's not a particularly difficult argument to grasp tbh, and yet here we are. That would make sense if that was the reason people are wanting United promoted. It's actually down the fact they're top of their league when the season was stopped. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Remember when Ric flounced off in a VW campervan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Manhattan Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, jamamafegan said: Ann Budge is a fucking clown Aye, and more the Pennywise sort than Charlie Cairoli. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: That would make sense if that was the reason people are wanting United promoted. It's actually down the fact they're top of their league when the season was stopped. It's been mentioned dozens of times. If you want to deliberately ignore that, it's literally no skin off my tits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, JamieThomas said: It's been mentioned dozens of times. If you want to deliberately ignore that, it's literally no skin off my tits. I've heard literally not a single person claim United should be promoted because of how much theyve spent. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, JamieThomas said: It's been mentioned dozens of times. If you want to deliberately ignore that, it's literally no skin off my tits. Who's mentioned it? Yer at it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 48 minutes ago, bennett said: "Budge stressed it would be unfair to punish any club already suffering due to the financial downturn brought by the global pandemic. She also argued that titles should not be awarded and repeated her anger at how the whole voting process was handled by the SPFL." That is just so mealy mouthed though isn't it? She's not talking about any club. She's talking about her club, and it's painfully transparent that she is. She's "at it". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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