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We need to get ourselves in a position where we are not reliant on 4 OF games dictating the whole of Scottish football. Next time our deal is up we should be pressing for short term pain for long term gain.

It's clear for all to see that this single requirement is holding the game back. And, if Celtic & Rangers didn't play each other as often as they did, the games would mean even more.

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There are various amusing scenarios that could play out from here but the one that I'm really hoping for is the proposal to be voted down and Budge not to end up taking legal action.

You'd think it would be obvious that whipping your fans into a full on Rangers mentality and then doing f**k all would be the best way to guarantee an absolutely venomous atmosphere. She seems that oblivious to her own fans that it could happen and I'm here for it skZap6W.png

 

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29 minutes ago, steelmen said:

I would hazard a guess at very little. There is a reason that 4 old firm games are in the contract and 4 Hibs hearts games aren’t.

Also, the Edinburgh derbies, particularly the ones at Tynecastle, are always utter shite.

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The Edinburgh derby is the most boring derby in Scottish football and I'd even go as far to include shitey pretend derbies in that such as Aberdeen vs United and St Johnstone vs Dundee.

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18 minutes ago, ropy said:

Does the contract actually specify 4 OF games or just specify a league format where it is feasible?

Theoretically Rangers could finish bottom six, what happens then?

From what I believe, yes, they specify 4 OF games, although there are other caveats too.

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21 minutes ago, ropy said:

Does the contract actually specify 4 OF games or just specify a league format where it is feasible?

Theoretically Rangers could finish bottom six, what happens then?

Well for a start I’d have a really good laugh...

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34 minutes ago, ropy said:

Theoretically Rangers could finish bottom six, what happens then?

I imagine immediate reconstruction with the split being moved further down the league to accommodate them. The very day it happens. 

"What do you mean the rangers finished 7th?"

"Oh f**k!!!! Well we'll have to move the split. It's now top 8 bottom 4. There. Fixed". 

"What do you mean what about the other teams?" 

Sound ridiculous doesn't it? That's because it fuckin well is :lol:  This pandering the old filth and their 'precious' 4 games is embarrassing. 

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20 minutes ago, Ric said:

From what I believe, yes, they specify 4 OF games, although there are other caveats too.

Oh of course. The 'arranging' of the cup 'draws' too ;) 

No too early mind, quarter or semi final if it can't be the final :) 

I know, I know, tin foil hat time :lol:  I'm only messing as it's my birthday, I've been drinking and it's such a beautiful day here.  

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4 minutes ago, Trackdaybob said:

Sound ridiculous doesn't it? That's because it fuckin well is :lol:  This pandering the old filth and their 'precious' 4 games is embarrassing. 

It is, but what can you do? They hold all the cards. If they weren't in the league, not one broadcaster would give a toss apart from maybe BT, and even at that they'd offer a pittance of what they would normally. It's a sad state of affairs and I bet not one other league in the world is like it in terms of pandering. 

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4 hours ago, Mr. X said:

I know as a Hearts fan I would be campaigning vociferously for reconstruction if Hamilton or St Mirren were in 12th place.

 

With respect, that's nonsense. By your logic we should all be vociferously supporting your knee-jerk reconstruction. I'm hearing crickets. 

Nobody as far as I can see is clamouring to reconstruct to 'save' Hearts because everyone else realises that this was the least shit way to deal with a total clusterfuck. 

In addition,  I'll fucking riot if you stay up on a one year reconstruct and County go down automatically in 11th next season. Take your medicine and come back in a year. 

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1 hour ago, Jacky1990 said:

Suggesting there is a solution out there that keeps everyone happy is pure fantasy.

Hearts need to accept the exceptional circumstances we are in and move on. For their own sanity more than anything.

This is the best take I have seen on the subject. 

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On 19/05/2020 at 12:19, DA Baracus said:

Some Falkirk fans still thrashing about with nonsense. The popular one among the dafties (an admittedly low number) think Dundee voted against a playoff, as if there has ever been a chance of any playoff games being played since this all started.

Oh, and seemingly a pre-season game against Celtic, which was apparently one of the things Celtic promised when they 'bought' Dundee's vote, is going to be a huge money spinner for Dundee. Somehow.

The other thing Celtic seemingly promised when they 'purchased' Dundee's vote was to give them a few of their top younger players on loan. Given that it's not the 1980s and players actually have a say in these things, I'd say that tearful nonsense is rather far fetched. Even if it wasn't, the league is hardly going to be shaking if Jonathan Afolabi turns up at Dens Park.

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1 hour ago, steelmen said:

There is a reason that 4 old firm games are in the contract

I think that you need to have a wee chat with your carer if you actually believe this.....................

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5 hours ago, Coventry Saint said:

It will require at least two of St Mirren, St Johnstone, Hibs, Celtic and Rangers to vote in favour. 

Dead on arrival.

It will require at least 4 of them to vote in favour.

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1 hour ago, CountyFan said:

With respect, that's nonsense. By your logic we should all be vociferously supporting your knee-jerk reconstruction. I'm hearing crickets. 

Nobody as far as I can see is clamouring to reconstruct to 'save' Hearts because everyone else realises that this was the least shit way to deal with a total clusterfuck. 

In addition,  I'll fucking riot if you stay up on a one year reconstruct and County go down automatically in 11th next season. Take your medicine and come back in a year. 

You stopped reading after the first sentence, didn't you?

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Notice that no teams have came out this week either to back or more importantly decline any reconstruction scenario.  Clearly they do have an eye on Budge taking this to the courts.  Any statements made before her proposal to scrap the idea would be taken as evidence that they never have any intention of reconstruction.  Which they don’t anyway.

It will be heard and studied by the leagues top men.
 

 

Then filed away next to Scotland’s World Cup squad winning city tour routes.

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I would hazard a guess at very little. There is a reason that 4 old firm games are in the contract and 4 Hibs hearts games aren’t.

It's going to be worth less than the old firm game but more than nothing.

In an effort improve on hazarding a guess I went looking for some actual data

The best I found was an incomplete set of BARB TV rating for 2017-18

 

These were missing

MatchDate  Kickoff HomeTeam         AwayTeam         Barb---------- ------- ---------------- ---------------- ---------------------------2018-04-08 12:30   Hamilton         Celtic           Not Available2018-04-21 12:30   Hibs             Celtic           Not Available2018-04-27 19:45   Aberdeen         Hearts           Not Available2018-04-28 12:30   Hamilton         Ross County      Not Available2018-05-04 19:45   Partick Thistle  Ross County      Not Available2018-05-06 12:30   Hearts           Celtic           Not Available2017-08-11 19:45   Partick Thistle  Celtic           Not Available2017-08-26 15:00   Ross County      Rangers          Not Available

But these are the remainder in order (the percentages are percentages of the total for games we have data for)

MatchDate  Kickoff HomeTeam         AwayTeam         Barb---------- ------- ---------------- ---------------- ---------------------------2017-12-30 12:00   Celtic           Rangers          644000(9.2%)2018-03-11 12:00   Rangers          Celtic           541000(7.7%)2018-04-29 12:00   Celtic           Rangers          394000(5.6%)2017-12-17 12:15   Hearts           Celtic           294000(4.2%)2017-09-23 12:00   Rangers          Celtic           275000(3.9%)2018-02-18 14:00   Hamilton         Rangers          236000(3.4%)2017-12-03 19:45   Aberdeen         Rangers          218000(3.1%)2018-05-13 12:30   Celtic           Aberdeen         196000(2.8%)2017-10-25 19:45   Aberdeen         Celtic           182000(2.6%)2018-03-09 19:45   Hibs             Hearts           179000(2.6%)2017-10-24 19:45   Hibs             Hearts           177000(2.5%)2017-08-06 13:00   Motherwell       Rangers          174000(2.5%)2017-10-13 19:45   St Johnstone     Rangers          164000(2.3%)2017-12-10 12:15   Hibs             Celtic           164000(2.3%)2018-03-18 14:30   Motherwell       Celtic           163000(2.3%)2018-05-08 19:45   Aberdeen         Rangers          163000(2.3%)2017-12-14 19:45   Hibs             Rangers          158000(2.3%)2018-05-09 19:45   Hearts           Hibs             144000(2.1%)2018-04-22 12:00   Rangers          Hearts           137000(2.0%)2018-05-13 12:30   Hibs             Rangers          135000(1.9%)2018-02-25 13:15   Aberdeen         Celtic           128000(1.8%)2017-12-27 19:45   Hearts           Hibs             127000(1.8%)2017-12-23 12:15   Kilmarnock       Rangers          124000(1.8%)2017-09-08 19:45   Hamilton         Celtic           123000(1.8%)2017-08-05 12:30   Celtic           Hearts           121000(1.7%)2018-03-16 19:45   St Johnstone     Hibs             120000(1.7%)2017-11-18 12:30   Ross County      Celtic           119000(1.7%)2017-12-16 12:15   Aberdeen         Hibs             116000(1.7%)2017-09-29 19:45   Hamilton         Rangers          113000(1.6%)2017-11-24 19:45   Dundee           Rangers          108000(1.5%)2017-12-08 19:45   Dundee           Aberdeen         107000(1.5%)2018-02-02 12:30   Kilmarnock       Celtic           106000(1.5%)2017-10-28 12:30   Hearts           Rangers          105000(1.5%)2017-09-15 19:45   Partick Thistle  Rangers          99000(1.4%)2017-11-04 12:30   St Johnstone     Celtic           94000(1.3%)2018-02-17 12:15   Ross County      Hearts           74000(1.1%)2017-09-24 12:15   Motherwell       Aberdeen         73000(1.0%)2017-11-26 12:15   Kilmarnock       Aberdeen         70000(1.0%)2017-11-29 19:45   Rangers          Aberdeen         63000(0.9%)2017-08-25 12:15   Dundee           Hibs             59000(0.8%)2018-04-01 13:30   Dundee           Hearts           55000(0.8%)2018-01-28 14:00   Ross County      Rangers          54000(0.8%)2017-08-19 12:30   Kilmarnock       Celtic           52000(0.7%)2018-02-24 12:15   Kilmarnock       Hibs             40000(0.6%)

With all the caveats about incomplete data there are a few things that leap out

Only the two end of season relegation battles in Dingwall didn't feature Rangers, Celtic, Hearts. Hibs or Aberdeen

the 4 Old Firm Games  averaged 463,500 which is 26.5% of the total for 48 matches we have data for

4 Edinburgh Derbies averaged 156,750 which is about 9% of that total 

Nobody wanted to watch Kilmarnock Games even though they were OK that season

 

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