Ric Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 31 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Fucking hell, who is Moira Gordon? Is it Ann Budge in disguise? https://www.scotsman.com/sport/sport-opinion/moira-gordon-vindication-spfl-should-hang-their-heads-shame-2926806 It's the Scotsman, what do you expect, even handed journalism? Whether it's politics or football, there has always been a staunch whiff coming from Edinburgh. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 45 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Fucking hell, who is Moira Gordon? Is it Ann Budge in disguise? Anyway, an article that hits all the 'high' spots. There's pish about how the season should have been played out (including the requisite 'but look at England!' bullshit), tears about Doncaster saying he feels vindicated, breathtaking arrogance, hypocrisy and outright stupidity by claiming a 'selective interpretation of events', barely concealed insinuations that the courts are corrupt, comparing the decision to tax evasion and general mewling that is totally detached from reality. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/sport-opinion/moira-gordon-vindication-spfl-should-hang-their-heads-shame-2926806 Just shows that women know nothing about football. <ducks and runs> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Been a lot of talk on here about the Maroon Pound. Isn't that what bank robbers end up with when the security dye cartridge goes off? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannadeechee Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 46 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Fucking hell, who is Moira Gordon? Is it Ann Budge in disguise? Anyway, an article that hits all the 'high' spots. There's pish about how the season should have been played out (including the requisite 'but look at England!' bullshit), tears about Doncaster saying he feels vindicated, breathtaking arrogance, hypocrisy and outright stupidity by claiming a 'selective interpretation of events', barely concealed insinuations that the courts are corrupt, comparing the decision to tax evasion and general mewling that is totally detached from reality. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/sport-opinion/moira-gordon-vindication-spfl-should-hang-their-heads-shame-2926806 That is atrocious and would not appear out of place on Kickback. Vindicated? Vindication would have come from a show of confidence in the SPFL board’s ability to handle another mess such as the one dredged up by the coronavirus pandemic. Instead, when a written resolution was circulated to clubs, suggesting power be transferred in the event of more Covid-related disruption, members denied them that authority Let's see what the dictionary says... vindicate verb [ T ]UK /ˈvɪn.dɪ.keɪt/ US /ˈvɪn.də.keɪt/ To prove that what someone said or did was right or true, after other people thought it was wrong: The decision to include Morris in the team was completely vindicated when he scored two goals. The investigation vindicated her complaint about the newspaper. to prove that someone is not guilty or is free from blame, after other people blamed them: They said they welcomed the trial as a chance to vindicate themselves. Not been Doncaster's biggest fan over the years, but I'd say vindicated was correct in this instance. It's not like he said and/or implied "war", "never forget" etc. Then we have the classic... Look at what we missed out on by not exploring all those options. In England there was drama right up to the last minute as teams battled for survival, for European places and their shot at moving up the ladder. And, in most cases, the final picture was very different from the one being painted with eight games to go. That is not to say that Hearts, Partick Thistle or Stranraer would have saved themselves but they should have been granted the opportunity to try. The fact they were not is the reason this season will always be an embarrassment for Scottish football Which has been discussed on here to the death. But no we couldn't. One TV deal ending and a new deal starting screwed that up and would have meant paying back far larger sums. Scot Gov said no, Each EPL and Championship club would have had to pay back eye watering amounts, Westminster gave them permission, UEFA deadline. Done any research Moira? “fellow member clubs and our governing bodies have stood back and allowed totally disproportionate financial damage to be imposed on three of its members”. She described it as shameful and she was spot on. She was also right to tackle their hypocrisy, fear and weakness. “For too long, chairmen and owners have stood on the sidelines bemoaning the decision-making processes, the perceived lack of leadership, the lack of commercialism; the general shortcomings, as they see it, of Scottish football. However, if they really want things to change, it will take more than words. They will have to stand-up and be counted. Did you, or any journalist, ask her whether she made any attempts to do any of this while a member of the SPFL board? The place where she was for 2 years actually involved in the decision making before leaving in 2018, or did she not stand up and be counted? If Hearts had beaten St Mirren, which much like 26 other games they didn't get 3 points, nothing would have been done or pushed by her. It really pissed me off that professional journalist writing in, let's face it public opinion forming organisations, can not research, deal in facts or give balance. I'm not talking about differing points of view after reading and considering facts which I will support, but this utter bollocks for clickbait and "edgy agitation". It really is bottom of the barrel scraping at its most blatant. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, DA Baracus said: Fucking hell, who is Moira Gordon? Is it Ann Budge in disguise? Anyway, an article that hits all the 'high' spots. There's pish about how the season should have been played out (including the requisite 'but look at England!' bullshit), tears about Doncaster saying he feels vindicated, breathtaking arrogance, hypocrisy and outright stupidity by claiming a 'selective interpretation of events', barely concealed insinuations that the courts are corrupt, comparing the decision to tax evasion and general mewling that is totally detached from reality. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/sport-opinion/moira-gordon-vindication-spfl-should-hang-their-heads-shame-2926806 8gamestogo's greatest hits brought to you in one mail order album. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribzanelli Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 58 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: It seems that certain people don't realise that relegation is a thing. It was not invented this summer. Absolutely. All the nonsense about ‘people will lose jobs’ totally ignores the fact that for every team who is relegated and has to downsize, there is a promoted team who will be hiring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesM82 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) The thing you've got to remember about journos in this sort of league v club dispute is that lots of people actively support a club (particularly if it's one of the bigger ones) and nobody actively supports the league. If a journo writes an opinion piece savaging the club and defending the league, their paper may get boycotted. Nobody is going to boycott the Scotsman because they've published a piece that has a go at Neil Doncaster, the SPFL. the SFA and some unidentified lawyers. That doesn't excuse Tom English, and Sportsound in general, of course. Edited July 29, 2020 by JamesM82 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 That article reads like she just lifted a load of stuff from Tom English and churned it. The whole 'why didn't we get the season finished, look at England' stuff beggars belief. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 The Scotsman has been publishing shite like this for months. The sales are plummeting and wouldn't be surprised if they went to the wall in the not too distant future. They are desperately trying to keep a few Jambo readers on board. And they ask for you to subscribe in order to support their 'journalism'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Just now, rainbowrising said: That article reads like she just lifted a load of stuff from Tom English and churned it. The whole 'why didn't we get the season finished, look at England' stuff beggars belief. You'd think that any half decent journalist would have looked at his piss poor offerings throughout this process, and actively avoided making the same mistakes. Then they wouldn't have made a complete James Hunt of themselves. Obviously not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, FTOF said: You'd think that any half decent journalist would have looked at his piss poor offerings throughout this process, and actively avoided making the same mistakes. Then they wouldn't have made a complete James Hunt of themselves. Obviously not. Maybe they're looking at the amount of recycling and dismantling of his ravings on twitter and the forums and the general internet, and decided they want some of that sweet, sweet viral clickbait action. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, DA Baracus said: Fucking hell, who is Moira Gordon? Is it Ann Budge in disguise? Anyway, an article that hits all the 'high' spots. There's pish about how the season should have been played out (including the requisite 'but look at England!' bullshit), tears about Doncaster saying he feels vindicated, breathtaking arrogance, hypocrisy and outright stupidity by claiming a 'selective interpretation of events', barely concealed insinuations that the courts are corrupt, comparing the decision to tax evasion and general mewling that is totally detached from reality. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/sport-opinion/moira-gordon-vindication-spfl-should-hang-their-heads-shame-2926806 Laughable article. No wonder newspapers are dying when that is the standard of the journalism. A collection of lazy 'arguments' that have been dealt with by people on here months ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 It appears the Raith Rovers chairman's appearance on Sportsound has gone down well. https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/189510-bridges/ 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiff Hibs Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Ms Gordon ‘s “article” is lazy , unoriginal thinking and feeble reasoning. Standard fayre for the two bit “journalists” now freelancing at the once reputable Scotsman. File under irrelevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Hearts fan: I'm going to try really, really hard not to relate everything football related to wars today First reply: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Red Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 20 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 23 hours ago, Aim Here said: You're forgetting Hamilton's boycott of away grounds, which they've consistently maintained for a remarkable number of seasons now. Accies crowdwank joke> And their home ground. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesM82 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Hopefully Kickback doesn't find out that they've just voided the women's league. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53521312 (they had only played one game before corona hit) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Don't often see much of an away end at Pittodrie when Hearts come to town. Are they known for having a large away following? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 14 hours ago, Billy Jean King said: 16 hours ago, Coventry Saint said: True, but if the events of the past 36 hours are anything to go by, they'll be spinning the lack of away fans as a victory for the boycott and a demonstration of the might of the maroon pound. Is the Maroon Pound (MP) a closed currency or is it freely traded on the currency markets ? I suspect rather than the penny the denominator of the MP might be the Dooner, 100 Dooners to the MP. Wonder for example if I went to my local Ramsdens exchange would I be able to buy some MPs and at what rate ? 50 Dooners = A No' Fair, 2 No Fairs to the MP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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