CambieBud Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 He just keeps on going doesn't he? What a red neck he has been all these weeks. You couldn’t give Tom English a red neck with a blowtorch 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500ClubCraig Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Doctor Manhattan said: suspect the medicine that Hearts can expect from arbitration is more likely to come in enema form. Time will tell, can’t get any worse than that already attempted to be dispensed to us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr. X said: You got one home win FFS In season 2015/16 and 2016/17 ? Which was when I was talking about those wee Hearts fannies coming to Easter Road to "support" the likes of Falkirk against us? I think that you might need to reassess your drug intake during lockdown chum.................. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorky Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, 500ClubCraig said: Time will tell, can’t get any worse than that already attempted to be dispensed to us. Hearts will come straight back up, sadly many Hearts supporters on kickback want to see as many clubs as possible go to the wall and see maximum damage to the Scottish game, which will also effect them in the long run. There are no winners here and the longer it drags on the worse it’s going to be for every club, including Hearts. And who ends up suffering, the average supporter who had no part of any decisions that were made. Those on kickback seem to again think they are going to receive millions in compensation or still be a top level club next season along with suggesting wrongdoing by individuals. I honestly feel they are in for a shock. Edited July 6, 2020 by Yorky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, 500ClubCraig said: Time will tell, can’t get any worse than that already attempted to be dispensed to us. How do you like them apples fannybaws ? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Because pedantry is important Accuracy is important. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500ClubCraig Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, Green Day said: How do you like them apples fannybaws ? Looking forward to you throwing us one of your famous “relegation” parties, the last one was spectacular 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, 500ClubCraig said: Looking forward to you throwing us one of your famous “relegation” parties, the last one was spectacular This is the last one I attended - quite spectacular, as you say; VID_20191226_155407193 (1).mp4 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRoad Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 36 minutes ago, Yorky said: Hearts will come straight back up, sadly many Hearts supporters on kickback want to see as many clubs as possible go to the wall and see maximum damage to the Scottish game, which will also effect them in the long run. There are no winners here and the longer it drags on the worse it’s going to be for every club, including Hearts. And who ends up suffering, the average supporter who had no part of any decisions that were made. Those on kickback seem to again think they are going to receive millions in compensation or still be a top level club next season along with suggesting wrongdoing by individuals. I honestly feel they are in for a shock. I think this is where the problem lies where people are taking what is said on kickback or twitter as gospel for the whole Hearts support. Absolutely no chance are the vast majority of people on kickback and twitter seriously wanting clubs to go to the wall, it's all for a reaction. Going by this thread it does seem to have worked tbf. I'll happily spraff off some shite on here about how we're going to win millions from the SPFL and how the rest of Scottish football can crumble for all I care, when in reality and I'm chatting to pals that support Hearts or whoever else, the majority just want football to be back regardless of which league we're in. Even all of this chat about boycotting away games etc, I'll be fairly surprised if it comes to fruition in any real scale, I'm hardly going to turn down a game on my doorstep in Dundee after 6 months of no football because of a Rangers-esque boycott. Still looking forward to a hostile reception though, absolutely would not have it any other way. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Off to my scratcher now, getting bored with these JKB sockpuppet muppets - its like kicking a kitten, too easy and ultimately unsatisfying...................you just know it would be much better fun if you had a sack, brick and a canal nearby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyMirren Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, 500ClubCraig said: Had the music stopped after 38 games you would be correct. Surely this argument is dead, there’s no way the games could have been played...but do feel free to keep digging! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500ClubCraig Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, JimmyMirren said: Surely this argument is dead, there’s no way the games could have been played...but do feel free to keep digging! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500ClubCraig Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Green Day said: Off to my scratcher now, getting bored with these JKB sockpuppet muppets - its like kicking a kitten, too easy and ultimately unsatisfying...................you just know it would be much better fun if you had a sack, brick and a canal nearby. Night night 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyMirren Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, 500ClubCraig said: Pot...Kettle...outdated racial remarks! You’ve been on this forum for all of ten minutes and every post you’ve made has been debunked a thousand times in the nearly 700 pages prior to your arrival. Try come up with something original and maybe I’ll care about your opinion, or what point you’re trying (read as failing) to make... 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500ClubCraig Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Glad to have got such a warm welcome. I was making the point that whilst multiple clubs are blaming each other - “Doncaster, nobody seems to be laying the blame at his door yet the farcical resolution forced through by him and his SPFL Board is the reason Scottish Professional Football is in this mess. “ Wasn’t having a go at any other clubs specifically, don’t agree with most of the sentiment on JKB at present but can see how the strength of feeling there has got to this point. The SPFL clubs pay ND in excess of £7k per week and should be expecting a whole lot more than he has delivered. As for me making racial remarks? Not aware that I had and certainly never purposely did so. Whatever the outcome of Arbitration the game as a whole has a very challenging period ahead as does the whole of society, how well and how quickly Scottish Football heals these wounds could prove critical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 They could replace him with a [emoji1782] never mind a clone and be in a much better place.Craig Levein is doing f**k all at the moment, except boring us all to tears on the radio.No wonder he is a Hearts legend, both the biggest bottlers in Scottish football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 6 hours ago, 500ClubCraig said: Glad to have got such a warm welcome. I was making the point that whilst multiple clubs are blaming each other - “Doncaster, nobody seems to be laying the blame at his door yet the farcical resolution forced through by him and his SPFL Board is the reason Scottish Professional Football is in this mess. “ Wasn’t having a go at any other clubs specifically, don’t agree with most of the sentiment on JKB at present but can see how the strength of feeling there has got to this point. The SPFL clubs pay ND in excess of £7k per week and should be expecting a whole lot more than he has delivered. As for me making racial remarks? Not aware that I had and certainly never purposely did so. Whatever the outcome of Arbitration the game as a whole has a very challenging period ahead as does the whole of society, how well and how quickly Scottish Football heals these wounds could prove critical. Neil Doncaster and the SPFL executive were under immense pressure to give clubs access to funding as early as possible (The SPFL executive's job is to enact the will of the clubs). The resolution was put forward as the optimal way of allowing clubs access to funds, preserving the new sky deal and giving clubs some short term clarity on how to run their business. I'm sure mistakes were made along the way, something funny went on with Dundee (not necessarily wrongdoing, but it is certainly bizarre) and you won't hear me saying the SPFL are a benchmark of competence, but no informed person looks back now and says the decision to call the leagues was the wrong one. I'm not sure Hearts argument is even that the league season shouldn't have been ended, just that they don't want relegation to be a part of it. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylo vanal Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Neil Doncaster and the SPFL executive were under immense pressure to give clubs access to funding as early as possible (The SPFL executive's job is to enact the will of the clubs). The resolution was put forward as the optimal way of allowing clubs access to funds, preserving the new sky deal and giving clubs some short term clarity on how to run their business. I'm sure mistakes were made along the way, something funny went on with Dundee (not necessarily wrongdoing, but it is certainly bizarre) and you won't hear me saying the SPFL are a benchmark of competence, but no informed person looks back now and says the decision to call the leagues was the wrong one. I'm not sure Hearts argument is even that the league season shouldn't have been ended, just that they don't want relegation to be a part of it. It's cost us the best part if £10m to end the league by having to repay the tv companies and give sky loads if free games. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tannadeechee Posted July 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, 500ClubCraig said: Glad to have got such a warm welcome. I was making the point that whilst multiple clubs are blaming each other - “Doncaster, nobody seems to be laying the blame at his door yet the farcical resolution forced through by him and his SPFL Board is the reason Scottish Professional Football is in this mess. “ Wasn’t having a go at any other clubs specifically, don’t agree with most of the sentiment on JKB at present but can see how the strength of feeling there has got to this point. The SPFL clubs pay ND in excess of £7k per week and should be expecting a whole lot more than he has delivered. As for me making racial remarks? Not aware that I had and certainly never purposely did so. Whatever the outcome of Arbitration the game as a whole has a very challenging period ahead as does the whole of society, how well and how quickly Scottish Football heals these wounds could prove critical. You see the problem with that is this as you haven't read the many,many pages of this thread.... A resolution was put to the clubs Resolution was from the board (made up of club reps from Prem to League 2) The board toolk soundings prior to making this resolution from clubs All clubs had a vote An extremely large number voted for the resolution (81%) A very small number voted against it (19%) If the voting structure was across all clubs rather than Prem, Champ and then League 1& 2, Dundee's vote would have been irrelevant (It isn't and it wasn't). Votes to be in by Friday was a request only, clubs had the balance.of the legally mandated 28 days to vote SPFL screwed up by having a "no" option as only "Yes" votes count. Obviously done to make sure everyone voted. Dundee were knobbled. Why? Why Dundee, why not one of the other no voting clubs? Dundee's vote was in a spam folder it's a conspiracy. It wasn't it was caught by a much more complicated system. It's very common. Aberdeen told not to vote. Not correct,. confirmed by SPFL and McCormack that Aberdeen were told it didn't matter if they voted as by that time the number of "yes" votes for premiership clubs had been reached. If Aberdeen voted "no" it couldn't change anything, "yes" would simply have been confirming what was already known. Hearts, Partick & Stranraer aren't the only clubs affected. Approx 16 clubs (someone will correct me), lost out on potential playoff places. Brechin have been saved! From a playoff as were another approx 7 clubs from potential relegation playoffs. Disgraceful Raith Rovers have been promoted, it's such a shame on Kelty Hearts. Kelty who were 6pts. ahead of Bonnyrigg who had a game in hand & 5 games to go. Consistency is important. Clubs could have done the right thing by voting for reconstruction! Problem was behind the headline grabbing 14-10-10-10 it was shit and could have damaged more clubs. Budge needed to listen to other clubs and take onboard their thoughts. If so reconstruction could have gone ahead. Hearts, ICT & Rangers tried to have league voided. Confirmed by 6 Championship clubs & since then BBC source Gardiner has been very quiet. This lost Budge goodwill. Clubs are voting with self interest. So are Hearts , Partick & Stranraer. Allowing Champions is because Hearts have shat it big style knowing they'd have Celtic (and the power behind the throne Lawell ) on their case. We aren't allowed to play football yet by Scot Government. UEFA has a deadline of August 3rd(I think it is) for leagues ranked below 16th. SPFL is one of those. We couldn't finish leagues, see N.I. Countless leagues have finished the same way as us, France, Belgium, N.I., English League 1 & 2. This isn't unique to us. That should have you caught up. It's not a Doncaster the Great & Powerful's doing. Very difficult situation, where no matter what was done, harm would have been done to clubs. This was trying to do the minimum amount of harm possible to the least number of clubs possible. Democratic votes, could have all been voted down if so poor. Far too many clubs & Doncaster have been involved to be one person's fault. Budge though has played a blinder in having the support completely overlooking the poor play last season and the.dreadful performances this season. Your all caught up now and shouldn't need to.go over anymore debunked ideas. Thanks Edited July 7, 2020 by Tannadeechee 34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Aylo vanal said: It's cost us the best part if £10m to end the league by having to repay the tv companies and give sky loads if free games. This argument only works if you can provide a solution that doesn't cost significant sums of money, or that the £10m you quote is the worst outcome. Think about this now, don't just say we could've finished the leagues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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