Fife Saint Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 How do they go about appointing an agreed independent panel? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: I think they can only do that on a point of law. @Ad Lib will keep us right. Once you've gone to binding arbitration it's a lot harder to challenge the decision, as you're really challenging the arbitration process itself rather than the original decision. That's kind of the point of arbitration: to take it out of the hands of the courts by offering an arm's length process that encourages either settlement or a compromise that the courts then won't touch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Wait we are going to get even more SCENES While English is painting disclosure of documents as a victory for Hearts it also means that Hearts compensation claim is going to be public. I assumed with arbitration we wouldn't get to see the details of £8m in compo but it looks like we do. LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Fishing on HKB - morons still think this is good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Well Well said: Whats this 'Recovery of Documents' requested by Hearts and Thistle and which will be provided confidentially?? My understanding is that it requires the SPFL to make all documents relating to the curtailment vote available to the arbitration panel. This may include internal SPFL emails and/or recorded video calls. 6 minutes ago, Snifter Pee Rot said: Why should they get any compo? Bear in mind the relegated Dutch Eredivisie clubs got a pittance from their FA. No cigar again for Budge. It was the opposite - it was clubs who were denied promotion after the Dutch authorities scrapped relegation from the Eredivisie against the will of the clubs. In other words, the Dutch equivalents of Dundee United were not promoted and were compensated as a result. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just now, Tenkay said: So now we can FINALLY all move on, and look forward to next season, and Heartz can look forward to the championship fixture list coming out then! It's the weekend, gets the beers open lads! Nope. This was just a preliminary ruling, not a ruling on the issues (except that it's not getting binned early). There's arbitration first. Season ain't begun until the lawsuits is done! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, JamesM82 said: He cites the Dundee vote as a reason for dismissing the Dundee United dismissal argument (although it's not the main reason). He dismissed the Hearts / Thistle argument that the action wasn't a "football dispute". He also said that some of the SFA's rules were doubtful in law, like being able to expel Hearts as a member or fine them £1million, so dismissing the case would require a full debate in court which the hearing was not intended for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Well Well said: "If for any reason, difficulties arise with whether the arbitration tribunal is able to deal with the issues in the time available and the parties change their minds and wish the court to deal with, time will be made available for that to happen" Could Hearts/Thistle come up with a plan to delay the arbitration long enough therefore making it go back to court?...wouldn't put it past them The judge already awarded costs to the SPFL. If Hearts and Thistle were wondering where the judge was leaning he made it very clear imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDONisSheep Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fife Saint said: How do they go about appointing an agreed independent panel? Believe it or not, each side will choose an arbiter from a list. Then those that have been chosen, choose another arbiter from the list to act as referee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just now, DeeTillEhDeh said: Fishing on HKB - morons still think this is good. Fair play to them, they could be booted out of the SPFL and still try and spin it as a win. "Gives us the perfect chance to join the English leagues HHGH" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Hearts (And Tom English naturally) need to paint this as some sort of even slight victory to avoid complete humiliation. Much preferable that to showing absolutely any ounce of humility. Their victory is tantamount to Livi getting some points on the board in their season under Paul Lambert. But they still went down with a record low points total anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snifter Pee Rot Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Budge has already demanded Tom natural justice English and Craig dat's my boy Levein to chair 'independent' arbitration panel. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Fife Saint said: How do they go about appointing an agreed independent panel? The way I read it the SFA should have a list available and two sides pick one each and then chosen pair agree a third. I very quickly scanned the document so apologies if that turns out to be complete pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyFan Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 34 minutes ago, SEETHING said: Taking a step away from firing off zingers at P&B nincompoops for a second: it may be a mistake for enemies of justice to delight in arbitration apparently being a home tie for the SPFL. ...so there shouldn't be any blazers on the panel. Good, that way when hearts and thistle get told to f**k off zoomers like you will have nothing to complain about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Wait we are going to get even more SCENES While English is painting disclosure of documents as a victory for Hearts it also means that Hearts compensation claim is going to be public. I assumed with arbitration we wouldn't get to see the details of £8m in compo but it looks like we do. LOL. No we won't. It's disclosure "to the tribunal", not to P & B. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Banned after one post. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stag Nation said: No we won't. It's disclosure "to the tribunal", not to P & B. Damn. I read it as documents sent to the tribunal would be disclosed. Oh well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 52 minutes ago, die hard doonhamer said: Hearts and Thistle have to pay half of the SPFL's legal costs for the hearing. I hope they spent a fortune on hundreds of Philadelphia lawyers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 51 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: Hope the SPFL give Hearts a 25 point deduction for bringing the game into dispute. And Thistle......................I would accept that life was definitely in the post-Covid, post-Brexit phase if that happened and just giggle uncontrollably. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkle Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 What happens if they cant come to an agreement in the arbritration? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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