Mark Connolly Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mr Positive, sometimes. said: If Hearts lose prior to an official announcement content from the SPFL's defence will be "leaked". Conveniently similar was happened when the stance of the Premiership Chairman re reconstruction was leaked from a private meetings prior to the meeting even finishing. Budge to that Kheredine at the BBC Are we having a predictions contest? I'll take "Tom English to offer the judge outside when Hearts lose" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, wastecoatwilly said: You answered your own question, a player like Kenny McLean should've never left Scotland for anything less than 7 figures this is a dereliction of duty. It happens time and time again we bend over and accept it,the fact Scottish clubs don't protect themselves gives the English clubs an easy breeding ground. The English leagues are a graveyard for Scottish players plus the detriment to our game never heals season after season. We improve the English leagues to the detriment of our own and you think this is a good thing? Everything is connected when it effects our young talent, your moral compass has no direction. Say, for example, that a club in the Scottish Premiership, Hibernian perhaps, had a talented young player. That young player wishes to play for a bigger club & Hibernian are looking to gain a decent transfer fee for the sale of this young player. On your own terms, he should not go to England, as this would be improving the English leagues to the detriment of the Scottish ones. If this is carried to its logical conclusion, then the player cannot move abroad, as this would improve a foreign league to the detriment of the Scottish ones. Where does this talented young player move to if Hibernian are looking for a sizeable transfer fee & the player wishes to play for a bigger club? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Aberdeen, obviously 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Jacksgranda said: Aberdeen, obviously Yes, that would be my opinion too, but I already know what I think! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said: I think his point is that good players should go to Celtic. Feck all to do with Celtic,Aberdeen let McLean a Scottish internationalist walk out the door for buttons. Norwich were wearing masks and it had nothing to do with a pandemic, -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 minute ago, wastecoatwilly said: Feck all to do with Celtic,Aberdeen let McLean a Scottish internationalist walk out the door for buttons. Norwich were wearing masks and it had nothing to do with a pandemic, We effectively got a good fee for a player leaving under freedom of contract. So I think you are, on this rare occasion, wide of the mark. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Willy exists in a world where clubs like Aberdeen should be competing financially with EPL clubs with turnovers of over £100m. Zero idea why people interact with him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazil85 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 2 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: You answered your own question, a player like Kenny McLean should've never left Scotland for anything less than 7 figures this is a dereliction of duty. It happens time and time again we bend over and accept it,the fact Scottish clubs don't protect themselves gives the English clubs an easy breeding ground. The English leagues are a graveyard for Scottish players plus the detriment to our game never heals season after season. We improve the English leagues to the detriment of our own and you think this is a good thing? Everything is connected when it effects our young talent, your moral compass has no direction. Kenny McLean went with six months left on his contract and Aberdeen still received a fee. Technically Norwich could have went down the pre-contract route and they may have gotten nothing. Your view completely ignores the free will of players not to sign longer term contracts to win themselves a bigger move. Norwich is a massive jump from Aberdeen and well done to Kenny for making the leap. Your next sentence is a continuation of this, you make it out like it's something Scottish clubs can take control over. It's down to the player what kind of contract they sign and where they go at the end of it. You might say "get them to sign longer term deals" that's a double edged sword, for every Tierney you get down for five years you might end up having to pay five Jamie McCart's a decent wage for the same time. Clubs are aware of the issue, you aren't having a revelation, they're just powerless to stop it. I don't think it's a good thing at the lower levels but I'm also a realist. At the higher levels, yes there will be some failures but outside of Scotland is the only option for players to develop at a level suitable for where we need the national team to go so yes, I think the more players we get out like your Billy Gilmour's, John McGinn's and Andy Robertson's the better. My moral compass tells me it isn't a good thing to put plans in place that will disenfranchise thousands of Scottish football fans and impact some of our smaller clubs with extremely patient and generous fans. You can't say the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: We effectively got a good fee for a player leaving under freedom of contract. So I think you are, on this rare occasion, wide of the mark. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Willy exists in a world where clubs like Aberdeen should be competing financially with EPL clubs with turnovers of over £100m. Zero idea why people interact with him. We're still in lockdown (ish). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewh Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 You answered your own question, a player like Kenny McLean should've never left Scotland for anything less than 7 figures this is a dereliction of duty. It happens time and time again we bend over and accept it,the fact Scottish clubs don't protect themselves gives the English clubs an easy breeding ground. The English leagues are a graveyard for Scottish players plus the detriment to our game never heals season after season. We improve the English leagues to the detriment of our own and you think this is a good thing? Everything is connected when it effects our young talent, your moral compass has no direction.What you say here is more interesting if you replace England/English leagues with the two Glasgow clubs. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Willy exists in a world where clubs like Aberdeen should be competing financially with EPL clubs with turnovers of over £100m. Zero idea why people interact with him. To be fair, that's a world I wouldn't mind living in... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Are we having a predictions contest? I'll take "Tom English to offer the judge outside when Hearts lose" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 49 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Are we having a predictions contest? I'll take "Tom English to offer the judge outside when Hearts lose" He'll be to busy recording the podcast blurting buzz words for shitshow. "Fiasco" "shamblesss" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mr Positive, sometimes. said: He'll be to busy recording the podcast blurting buzz words for shitshow. "Fiasco" "shamblesss" What he won't be saying: 'Take their medicine'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacArab Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Golden Gordon said: What he won't be saying: 'Take their medicine'. Let’s hope that as an added bonus to the judge pitching Successful Businesswoman Anne Budge’s petition into the sea where it belongs, that in protest, in sheer disgust, and in support of his pal, Tom English decides to quit covering Scottish football for good. Win win!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep62 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 3 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: Have a look for yourself. Players abroad - Scotland - Players - Soccerway Knew I'd regret it as soon as I clicked on it but, curiosity as to whom these forty future internationalists per season could possibly be Difficult to argue with the Willie one when you see the Berwick Rangers squad on the list together with an apparent couple of young upcoming players that go by the names of Graham Alexander (Salford City) and the ever youthful Derek Adams @ Morecambe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, MacArab said: Let’s hope that as an added bonus to the judge pitching Successful Businesswoman Anne Budge’s petition into the sea where it belongs, that in protest, in sheer disgust, and in support of his pal, Tom English decides to quit covering Scottish football for good. Win win!! Can only hope so. But true to form he'll probably question the legitimacy of the Court's process & cast aspersions on the entire Scottish judicial system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Golden Gordon said: Where does this talented young player move to if Hibernian are looking for a sizeable transfer fee & the player wishes to play for a bigger club? No problem with an individual case but when we're losing over 40 players each season it's detrimental to our game. The only way to slow this process down is to ask for a bigger transfer fee. -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Just now, wastecoatwilly said: No problem with an individual case but when we're losing over 40 players each season it's detrimental to our game. The only way to slow this process down is to ask for a bigger transfer fee. Do you actually believe the stuff you write on here? You're at it. Come clean man! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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