D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 The actual, eventual payout is going to be roughly what Anderson donated to the clubs isn't it ? A great big fucking waste of time all round then. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: The actual, eventual payout is going to be roughly what Anderson donated to the clubs isn't it ? A great big fucking waste of time all round then. Not quite. As the money was distributed via the SPFL Trust then the donation was then Gift Aided. Football screwing the tax man, I am sure I have heard this before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: For me the colts are for the development of young talent, only competitive football is what's needed at a certain point in that development(18 to 21), the level is less important than getting the 50 games under their belts.if the level isn't good enough or is too good then it should be reviewed.As far as the league they play in, their position in that league doesn't matter. The challenge cup hasn't been effected by the colts, I wouldn't think they would be allowed to play in the Scottish cup. It's not about devaluing the league they play in, it's about creating a conveyor belt of players to increase the level of our game at club level and hopefully national level. So if the level isn't good enough what do you do? Pluck them out of one league and place them in another? You're not all there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, strichener said: Not quite. As the money was distributed via the SPFL Trust then the donation was then Gift Aided. Football screwing the tax man, I am sure I have heard this before. SFA could fine Hearts and Thistle the amount of their compo, then donate it via the charitable trust back to all the clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternapper Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 35 minutes ago, Ralstonite said: Aye, but why should it only be the Old Firm who get to play Colt sides? Every Premiership team should have the opportunity to field them. Aye in a premier league Colt/Reserve team league they should not be involved league football. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, strichener said: Not quite. As the money was distributed via the SPFL Trust then the donation was then Gift Aided. Football screwing the tax man, I am sure I have heard this before. And the lawyers get their slice too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie greatness Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Romeo said: Hearts would probably settle now for about 2 million. Partick about 500k which they'd probably have to give to Hearts. Plus one * Edited June 17, 2020 by Gorgie greatness 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Hearts fan now early celebrating being awarded £10m. Just like the celebrations this time last week when they were staying up. Never change, lads. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Plus one *All the cool kids have a * 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 hours ago, renton said: The 4070 figure is the all deaths with covid mentioned on death certificate. Whereas the daily figure Sturgeon reads out is confirmed as cause of death, which is 2400 odds - thats the figure you should compare with the UK 42000 figure. If you go on excess mortality, the gap between Scotland and England widens further. Thanks. So is the Scottish 4070 “Death Cert mentions Covid” figure like for like with the UK’s 51804 below? In which case we are (at 5/7 July) still worse pro-rata than rUK? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) If they somehow won their claim then every other club could also sue for compensation. [Enter your club name here ] were, like Hearts, obviously going to win all of their last remaining games but were prevented from doing so and the rewards that would bring. So they could all sue themselves ie the SPFL, for the potential losses incurred. All for the good of Scottish football and fairness. Edited June 17, 2020 by NorthBank 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Romeo said: I say Celtic pay 5 and the other teams find 5 between them to pay the compo. Then we expell them both for bringing the game into disrepute Wait why not Celtic 5 and sevco 5? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 I've already explained how St Johnstone have a valid claim for 50m but we will not exercise that right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolf Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, The Grass Is Greener. said: Hearts fan now early celebrating being awarded £10m. Just like the celebrations this time last week when they were staying up. Never change, lads. Could say the same about Hibs fans tbh,the arse is falling out of your club whilst the infatuation with Hearts continues to be the main focus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/188814-spfl-declare-league-due-to-covid-partick-join-legal-action-cos-petition-lodged/&do=findComment&comment=7937257 Will they aye? 7 minutes ago, woolf said: Could say the same about Hibs fans tbh,the arse is falling out of your club whilst the infatuation with Hearts continues to be the main focus. We're making cutbacks like majority of clubs in Scotland will be soon enough. Edited June 17, 2020 by Lyle Lanley 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 The actual, eventual payout is going to be roughly what Anderson donated to the clubs isn't it ? A great big fucking waste of time all round then. This ^^^ In a nutshell what their aim is now. Budge / Anderson seemed sure their 30 pieces of silver would swing things their way. It didn't and now Anderson wants his "philanthropic gesture" back. Budge can't afford to hand it back given her clubs plight so she's taking a (huge and dangerous) gamble via the courts. It's about money, nothing more nothing less. She knows they won't be reinstated and she knows a court can't force reconstruction. She is desperate having been backed into a very deep and dark corner by her own support egged on by the media. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Hearts fan now early celebrating being awarded £10m. Just like the celebrations this time last week when they were staying up. Never change, lads. [emoji38]She would only spunk it Sevco style on a ridiculously over paid squad to play the like of Alloa, Arbroath and Morton. No big deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The DA Posted June 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2020 This seems like a fair summary from a Thistle fan's Twitter account. https://twitter.com/woodstockjag/status/1273304860402778113 (Followed by Jim Spence, Laura Kuenssberg and Joanna Cherry) Quote Grave reservations about the Hearts/Thistle legal challenge. As a matter of *policy* you can say it is unfair to relegate teams based on a modified criteria for final positions. But you can’t say it’s *illegal* simply because it’s unfair. Obviously we need to see the written case, but @PartickThistle’s statement suggests they’re not challenging titles or Euro places; just promotion and relegation. That means you’re not challenging the validity of positions on points per game; just *some* of its consequences It also suggests that the SPFL resolution “changed the rules” on promotion and relegation. Well it did. But only in relation to the play-offs. But Hearts and Thistle were relegated by a rule that *didn’t* change: the rule on automatic relegation. So you’re left with a legal challenge that claims a breach of a law/duty not because of a change of rules, but because of a failure to change them in the way Hearts/Thistle think would be fairer. But like it or not vast majority of SPFL clubs simply didn’t agree or care. At the end of the day the SPFL is a member’s organisation with rules and criteria for changing its rules. Those criteria are quite onerous. They were met. This is unfair and shambolic but I can’t see how it’s unlawful 29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 3 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: It's been said before Celtic have players on loan all over the place if there is less on loan because of the colts other teams will be able to develop their own. But if it was a club's strategy to develop its own youth players, surely it would do so without regard to Celtic? In that case it would make no difference to said club if Celtic's young players were available for loan or playing in a colt team. If I understand correctly, Celtic would be doing the whole of Scottish football a favour by keeping their youth players safely stored away in a colt team in League Two, so that they wouldn't be wreaking their magnificence in the rest of the leagues, to the detriment of all other Scottish clubs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolf Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/188814-spfl-declare-league-due-to-covid-partick-join-legal-action-cos-petition-lodged/&do=findComment&comment=7937257 Will they aye? We're making cutbacks like majority of clubs n Scotland will be soon enough. The same cuts that we did 3 months ago except without the mass payoffs? AB has made an arse of a lot of things but her actions at the start of the pandemic were spot on,we had luminaries like Boyd and McManus et al giving Hearts a kicking in the press when anyone with half a brain knew that deferred payments would be an absolute disaster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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