CountyFan Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 This thread is heading to gold, surely. Absolutely spectacular entertainment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Maybe broadband has crashed over in the east of Scotland. Maybe just the west of Edinburgh............. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: That wouldn't be a temporary reconstruction then, would it? League 2 would still have the same number of teams in it and seems to work well so why the need to introduce another 2 relegation places as was suggested? The idea of the temporary set up would have been to ensure there were no losers given there was still a quarter of the season to play. If 14-10-10-10 was unacceptable there might have been a possibility of the suggestion below. 1 hour ago, Lex said: What’s wrong with 12-12-10-10? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Oh Partick. Partick, Partick, Partick. You haven't always 'kept your counsel', have you? If you recall correctly, you also said this, in April. Quote Thistle has always lived in the real world so we also looked at the bigger picture of the life-changing pandemic we find ourselves in. The resulting lockdown is challenging the very existence of some clubs. If we were to take this action to court, there is a risk that might stop the release of much-needed monies to those clubs on Friday. That’s a step too far for us. Regardless of what’s been inflicted on Thistle, we can’t be responsible for pushing even one club to the brink. It would be hypocritical of us to have espoused “do no harm” as a reason why we shouldn’t be relegated and then do exactly that. … We aren’t looking for sympathy, we don’t need it. We are a well-run, debt-free club with a proud history of rolling with the punches. We may be down but we are not out. When football returns, we will be here, ready to play, regardless of the league we are in. So, they're not taking legal action, they live in the real world, and they're not looking for sympathy because they don't need it. Right-o. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Despite the fact there obviously aren't the votes for it, I'm 100% expecting the SPFL to say they've had enough indicative votes for an EGM on Monday. Doncaster is just stalling for time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 16 hours ago, Stanislav Petrov said: You would think St Mirren fans would be more sympathetic to our case considering reconstruction saved them before. Yeah but that was to save Hibs after your then chairman Wallace Mercer tried to buy them - relegation was suspended in order to save Hibs at that point when it seemed certain they would get relegated - that we subsequently went on a run of form to snatch bottom place is irrelevant apart from the LoLzzzz. I would still be happy for a 14 team top flight but it took successful businesswoman Anne Budge too long to realize that she just couldn't just bulldoze diddy clubs like us into a temporary reconstruction with no concessions - with us re-signing players and making offers to others it's kinda late in the day to vote for reconstruction, and the reduced budget that will accompany this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Wilbur said: We're not witnessing much input today from those a-whooping and a-yelling Hearts fans who were confidently ramming it into the Premiership diddy-fans earlier this week. Maybe broadband has crashed over in the east of Scotland. Floods of salty tears and fibre optic broadband cables tend not to mix well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, theoriginalhedge said: League 2 would still have the same number of teams in it and seems to work well so why the need to introduce another 2 relegation places as was suggested? The idea of the temporary set up would have been to ensure there were no losers given there was still a quarter of the season to play. If the 14-10-10-10 set-up is temporary, then that implies that we would be returning to 12-10-10-10 after some unspecified but short period of time (eg 2 years). To allow this to happen, two clubs would have to be relegated from each division, including League 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Green Day said: Partick Thistle statement, with added "self interest bingo" game included - I have bolded one, but there are many more................ Saturday 13th June, 2020 at 12:30pm “We have kept our counsel during current discussions and debate about reconstruction. It may prove to be the ultimate exercise in futility but this may be our last opportunity to speak out. “If there is no change to the current set up, Partick Thistle will be the Scottish club hardest hit in professional football as the new season starts. “Despite being relegated in an arbitrary fashion – with a game in hand and only two points behind our nearest rivals – we stand ready, willing and able to play, including behind closed doors. But today, we still don’t know when or even if we will play football next season. “Does anyone in Scottish football believe we deserve to be punished with a double whammy like this? Which club would find it acceptable if they were in our shoes? Not one of them. “Clubs need to think carefully about what their indicative vote to the SPFL will be on Monday and what will inform that decision. Everyone needs to reflect on their motives and thoughts behind their next step. “Let’s be blunt in our plea to fellow clubs so that there’s no misunderstanding. Use this opportunity to do something positive for our game – right the wrongs done to us and a number of other clubs. “We all want to protect our own club; Thistle is no different. But there’s a difference between that and self-interest, which seeks to protect a perceived advantage created by an unforeseen crisis. “Don’t use your vote to settle old scores. Don’t reinforce rivalries between clubs just to keep fans happy. Don’t turn a blind eye because it doesn’t impact on you – this time. “Recognise there will be far-reaching consequences of your actions for Thistle and everyone associated with the club. If that doesn’t matter to you, then focus on doing the right thing for Scottish football. If this vote collapses because people cannot set aside self-interest and ego, our game potentially faces irreparable damage and ongoing division for many years to come. “At a time unparalleled in footballing history, countries throughout Europe have re-jigged their league set ups to protect the whole – we have the opportunity to do the same. “For Thistle, if proposed reconstruction fails, the consequences of the actions visited on us by fellow clubs will be long term and serious. We will prevail because “that which does not kill us makes us stronger” but not before we suffer more pain and financial harm than is necessary or fair. “We believe it is time for clubs to show solidarity with us as we arbitrarily and disproportionately bear the brunt of the damage being done to our game due to circumstances that are no-one’s fault. “Our plea is simple: choose to do no harm.” Chairman Jacqui Low on behalf of the Board of Partick Thistle FC Dry yer eyes doll! Edited June 13, 2020 by Sergeant Wilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, DC92 said: Despite the fact there obviously aren't the votes for it, I'm 100% expecting the SPFL to say they've had enough indicative votes for an EGM on Monday. Doncaster is just stalling for time. Why would Doncaster need to 'stall for time'? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Dry yer eyes doll! Reported for sexism! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 The last time Partick produced a hilarious meltdown of a statement it was just the day after Falkirk had done so, as if they were trying to outdo each other in who could be the biggest embarrassment in the seaside leagues. Hopefully this latest Firhill tantrum sees Falkirk firing something out shortly to try to take the limelight again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Green Day said: It is very obvious from what I wrote that I was describing how Doncaster posited one potential solution to the money owed from the cutting short of last season. Which he did. Which was nothing to do with any made up "£2m per annum" nonsense that is rattling about your skull. I think you need some professional help. So are you positing or not positing that he's given them the league sponsorship? Posit away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Why would Doncaster need to 'stall for time'? Makes it harder and harder for AB to press the red button because as each day passes, legal action gets more disruptive and potentially damaging for the SPFL if they lose. And despite the fans' view, she isn't trigger happy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Just now, Pet Jeden said: Makes it harder and harder for AB to press the red button because as each day passes, legal action gets more disruptive and potentially damaging for the SPFL if they lose. And despite the fans' view, she isn't trigger happy. That's plenty. We all know legal action isn't actually going to happen, and if it did that Hearts would easily lose given their total lack of a case. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Why would Doncaster need to 'stall for time'? By the time the vote takes place and fails, it'll be the 22nd of June. By that point we'll be 40 days from the start of the Premiership season and it's much harder to imagine any legal action starting then resulting in Hearts' reinstatement. Fixtures are due to be released soon and TV games scheduled. The SPFL can claim they've done everything they can to facilitate reconstruction but changing the league structure at such a late stage will financially damage other clubs. It's the same reason the board have put forward yet another proposal, despite the fact it's been clear for ages now that clubs are not going to vote for any kind of reconstruction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 If any legal action was possible Partick wouldve done it months ago, when they claimed they had everything in place to do so. Their pathetic, mewling, backtrack when not one single club backed down after that "threat" will be nothing compared to Budges, especially after her pished rantings about going to court. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Green Day said: Partick Thistle statement, with added "self interest bingo" game included - I have bolded one, but there are many more................ Saturday 13th June, 2020 at 12:30pm “We have kept our counsel during current discussions and debate about reconstruction. It may prove to be the ultimate exercise in futility but this may be our last opportunity to speak out. “If there is no change to the current set up, Partick Thistle will be the Scottish club hardest hit in professional football as the new season starts. “Despite being relegated in an arbitrary fashion – with a game in hand and only two points behind our nearest rivals – we stand ready, willing and able to play, including behind closed doors. But today, we still don’t know when or even if we will play football next season. “Does anyone in Scottish football believe we deserve to be punished with a double whammy like this? Which club would find it acceptable if they were in our shoes? Not one of them. “Clubs need to think carefully about what their indicative vote to the SPFL will be on Monday and what will inform that decision. Everyone needs to reflect on their motives and thoughts behind their next step. “Let’s be blunt in our plea to fellow clubs so that there’s no misunderstanding. Use this opportunity to do something positive for our game – right the wrongs done to us and a number of other clubs. “We all want to protect our own club; Thistle is no different. But there’s a difference between that and self-interest, which seeks to protect a perceived advantage created by an unforeseen crisis. “Don’t use your vote to settle old scores. Don’t reinforce rivalries between clubs just to keep fans happy. Don’t turn a blind eye because it doesn’t impact on you – this time. “Recognise there will be far-reaching consequences of your actions for Thistle and everyone associated with the club. If that doesn’t matter to you, then focus on doing the right thing for Scottish football. If this vote collapses because people cannot set aside self-interest and ego, our game potentially faces irreparable damage and ongoing division for many years to come. “At a time unparalleled in footballing history, countries throughout Europe have re-jigged their league set ups to protect the whole – we have the opportunity to do the same. “For Thistle, if proposed reconstruction fails, the consequences of the actions visited on us by fellow clubs will be long term and serious. We will prevail because “that which does not kill us makes us stronger” but not before we suffer more pain and financial harm than is necessary or fair. “We believe it is time for clubs to show solidarity with us as we arbitrarily and disproportionately bear the brunt of the damage being done to our game due to circumstances that are no-one’s fault. “Our plea is simple: choose to do no harm.” Chairman Jacqui Low on behalf of the Board of Partick Thistle FC Green Day - I get how Hearts have enemies and how Hibbies in particular would want to stick it to us. But no reasonable person could argue that Partick (or Falkirk) deserve what they are being dished up, surely to fck? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner-to-Saint Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 36 minutes ago, Green Day said: Maybe just the west of Edinburgh............. Serious question, is geography still a factor in determining one's allegiance to the (two biggest) Edinburgh clubs? I mean I'm obviously aware that Leith is traditionally Hibs and Gorgie Hearts, but is that still relevant? Also I thought religion is, or certainly was, a factor, too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawkirk Wull Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Why would Doncaster need to 'stall for time'? SKY TV & Copensation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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