Falcor Roar Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 minute ago, djchapsticks said: 14-10-10-10 is a lot more palatable, only if permanent. Hearts' reputation though in Scottish football is forever fucked, wherever they end up. The footballing equivalent of one big long temper tantrum until they get what they want. 'Waaaahhhh, waaaaahhhh!!! Keep us up, boo hoo hoo!!' Oh no! Not our reputation! How ever will we cope? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Falcor Roar said: Oh no! Not our reputation! How ever will we cope? Can't hear you for all this... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 47 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: How is nobody disadvantaged when 6 clubs in play off positions are not promoted but ICT, Falkirk, Edinburgh City, Kelty and Brora who have no greater right to a promotion place are? 48 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: How is nobody disadvantaged when 6 clubs in play off positions are not promoted but ICT, Falkirk, Edinburgh City, Kelty and Brora who have no greater right to a promotion place are? Are you two not conveniently overlooking the other "winners" if 14-10-10-10 was the outcome? Celtic, Dun Utd, RR, and Cove who were awarded their leagues. Rangers, Motherwell and Aberdeen who were awarded their respective Euro places. Ross County, Accies, St Mirren, QoS , Alloa, Forfar and Peterhead who all dodged a possible play-offs. Stranraer and Brechin and Partick and, cough, Hearts who are not relegated. Now, don't be saying "ahh, but all those other issues were already decided". That's the point. There is a risk that the courts will determine that those decisons need to be undecided. And Celtic and the SKY contract can't be having that blowing up in July or August. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Roar Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 minute ago, djchapsticks said: Can't hear you for all this... Rattled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: 14-10-10-10 is a lot more palatable, only if permanent. Hearts' reputation though in Scottish football is forever fucked, wherever they end up. The footballing equivalent of one big long temper tantrum until they get what they want. 'Waaaahhhh, waaaaahhhh!!! Keep us up, boo hoo hoo!!' This. Absolutely fucking bored of it now. If it's a choice between colts and these losers staying up, then fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Zing. said: According to the BBC article it’s 9-3 required in the Premiership, which I think they’ve got spectacularly wrong. They literally haven't got this right once through the entire process, despite the rules having not changed at any point, and despite them being available on the SPFL website the whole time. Kheredine Idessane and Brian McLauchlin in particular have both been absolutely useless from start to finish. Edited June 10, 2020 by craigkillie 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankthetank22 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Get this 14-10-10-10 in the fucking bin. If they want to discuss changing things up, then it must be from the start of the 21/22 season, at the earliest. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillips455 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Cant see this going through until at least next season. With Aberdeen and Ross county most likely to vote against this change (and potentially Hamilton, Hibernian and St Mirren) i doubt this would be changed, especially since it is very close to the new season. I still believe Motherwell would vote against this as well due to the nature of the 7/7 split coming in earlier in the season, which has not been addressed in anyway. This is really just a continuation of the saga that will most likely not end even by Monday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparticus Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Split after 26 games would be brutal.Unbalanced after the split.Season ticket sales would drop. No one wants 14 club prem. Why not ask for 12 12 10 10? that might pass and help the smaller clubs. 14 prem wont pass.Hearts need to accept they finished bottom on merit and deserve to go down instead of bribing and using covid as an excuse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 32 minutes ago, craigkillie said: 14-10-10-10 was something I'd have been reasonably happy with at the start. The status quo was my preference but I wouldn't have minded this instead because it's probably the best way to handle the extraordinary circumstances. However, in light of Budge's behaviour of late and the general screeching of some (but not all) Hearts fans online I'm tempted to say f**k them. Mask of reasonableness slipping a bit there,Craig. None of this palaver needs to affect Killie. They'll be restarting training tomorrow. Won't they? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: Are you two not conveniently overlooking the other "winners" if 14-10-10-10 was the outcome? Celtic, Dun Utd, RR, and Cove who were awarded their leagues. Rangers, Motherwell and Aberdeen who were awarded their respective Euro places. Ross County, Accies, St Mirren, QoS , Alloa, Forfar and Peterhead who all dodged a possible play-offs. Stranraer and Brechin and Partick and, cough, Hearts who are not relegated. Now, don't be saying "ahh, but all those other issues were already decided". That's the point. There is a risk that the courts will determine that those decisons need to be undecided. And Celtic and the SKY contract can't be having that blowing up in July or August. The “courts” will not determine that any decision in Scottish football needs to be undecided. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I thought there were too many teams in the SPFL though? Hmm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Just now, Blootoon87 said: I thought there were too many teams in the SPFL though? Hmm. Well I can think of two that can f**k off anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, kingjoey said: The “courts” will not determine that any decision in Scottish football needs to be undecided. You might be right. You might be wrong. Read what I wrote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zing. Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Are the SPFL running scared of AB, Leslie Deans and their much heralded cast iron legal case? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, frankthetank22 said: Get this 14-10-10-10 in the fucking bin. If they want to discuss changing things up, then it must be from the start of the 21/22 season, at the earliest. ^^^^ Would rather plough in this year's crop than see Caley get an even break 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morton Supporter Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Green Day said: Is it not 11-1 and 8-2 required ? So 19 clubs for it................ Yes, as far as I understand it, because the distribution model would (necessarily) change with the admission of an extra two clubs. So this proposal, which I’ve seen called “harmless” is anything but - clubs are being asked to sacrifice income to allow Hearts a reprieve and to subsidise Brora and Kelty coming into the league when neither was guaranteed anything. While the vacancies in the Premiership, Championship and League 1 would go to clubs who’ve earned even less, at the expense of others who’d otherwise be entitled to compete with them for promotion. This is a nonsense, as are all of these pre-season rejig proposals. Changes just shouldn’t be happening without at least a years notice, and arguably not next year either given the uncertainty over the format of next season and the constraints that clubs will be working under. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Pet Jeden said: You might be right. You might be wrong. Read what I wrote. But the perceived threat that you wrote isn’t a threat because it won’t happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morley Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, EdinburghLivi said: Brora & Kelty. Can't see the old firm accepting the colts idea being knocked back that easily. They have tried a number of times now over the past few years and will keep trying until they get their way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesM82 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Zing. said: Are the SPFL running scared of AB, Leslie Deans and their much heralded cast iron legal case? It's not so much that the SPFL fear losing as they can't be arsed with the time and trouble fighting the case would cause (as the French are finding out now). It's easier to try and persuade the clubs to eat shit and move on. But if the clubs refuse to eat shit they may have to fight it. Edited June 10, 2020 by JamesM82 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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