DA Baracus Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, spiggle said: So you are saying that it doesn't make sense for Annan (and their merry band of fans) for example, in the winter, to potentially hit roads closed off due to snow. Regionalise it and you reduce the costs for clubs. That leads to better profit and more of a chance to survive in the lower leagues. Nope. Wrong on all counts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, mrman2011 said: The big boys will win and the B Teams will come in Explain how that happens please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: I didn't say every single game, that's always going to be difficult in a league set up. But I do feel the more games of interest/ something at stake the better for supporters. In terms of relevance, we're talking about the format of our leagues. I think entertainment value is a key factor in deciding on the format. Ultimately, what is the point of professional sport if entertainment isn't high on the list of priorities? The vast majority of the time, i think games with something at stake are far more entertaining than games with little or nothing at stake. I wouldn't be that fussed about watching a Caley Thistle v Dundee United match on tv if they were both mid table, however if they were battling it out for the championship title, or in a play off, or even both fighting relegation, I'd be far more likely to take an interest and watch it. In 2018-19 we were bottom six but nowhere near relegation trouble. Our last few matches had an air of pre-season friendly about them. It would be shite watching that for the last couple of months of the season. If you don't think excitement/ entertainment are relevant in deciding upon the format of our leagues, what criteria would you use? La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue Un, Eredivisie and the Premier League must all be shite and unentertaining leagues by your idiotic theory. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, mrman2011 said: Rangers and Celtic are going to pump money into the lower leagues Why are you all against it.....laughable Should stick colts teams from the likes of Liverpool and Man City into the Europa League for their development against diddies like The Rangers and Celtic to play against, then see if they think colts is a good idea. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwideJr Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, spiggle said: Here is what I would do for reconstruction. This season 14-10-10-10, keep things as they are as it's the only way to appease everyone. Next Season go to a 12-12-20 format. Both championship and premiership the same, spitting the same. The seasides leagues going to Seaside League North and South. with the pyramid below. Winners of Highland League feeding into North and Lowland League into south, either through a playoff or automatic relegation So, that would potentially look something like below in 2021 (used as an example) Prem Celtic, Rangers, Motherwell, Livingston, Aberdeen, Hibs, St Johnstone, Kilmarnock, Ross County, St Mirren, Hamilton and Dundee Utd Championship Hearts, Inverness CT, Ayr Utd, Dunfermline, Dundee, QOS, Morton, Arbroath, Alloa, Partick Thistle, Falkirk and Raith Rovers Seaside North Cove Rangers, Elgin, Peterhead, Brechin City, Montrose, Forfar, East Fife, Cowdenbeath, Stirling Albion and Brora Rangers Seaside South Stranraer, Annan, Kelty Hearts, Dumbarton, Clyde, Edinburgh City, Airdrie, Stenhousemuir, Queens Park and Albion Rovers. It's not perfect but the big teams are not going to vote for less games against the Old Firm and it makes sense to regionalise below the Championship to reduce potential travel costs in this current climate. So just to be clear you've put East Fife, Cowdenbeath and Stirling Albion in a North division and are under the impression you've reduced their travel costs? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, mrman2011 said: previously before Is that a real thing, what came before before? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, mrman2011 said: And what's your plan apart from being a little kid on these forums Did you read the sycophantic pish that you posted Tom? A five year old would be embarrassed to put its name to that. Status Quo all the way. Down, down, deeper and down. Edited June 8, 2020 by FTOF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theauldyin Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, mrman2011 said: Colts is still a fantastic idea. We need to improve the development of youngsters and keep them in the same environment as their senior counterparts. The Colts can be 18-23 (Plus 1 player overage) Smaller clubs would also benefit as they will have ready made players who are released as these players would have more experience playing in the Scottish Lower Levels then previously before Scottish Football must swallow its pride and embrace this fantastic and forward thinking plan. The Scottish Youth/Senior teams would benefit better in time with their development. fantastic idea for who ? for two teams, because these two colt teams will be stuffed full of foreign youngster's, so who does that benefit Scotland ? Its nothing to do with pride its to do with self preservation and greed ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theauldyin Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, mrman2011 said: Rangers and Celtic are going to pump money into the lower leagues Why are you all against it.....laughable 50 minutes ago, mrman2011 said: The big boys will win and the B Teams will come in Cowdenbeath, Alloa etc are too small to survive we need more dynamic ideas. why no just come out and tell you really support ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 The Arsecheeks colts teams achieving league status would be their foothold within Scottish football if (stretch of imagination required here) the English authorities ever allowed their big boys into their league set-up. If that was ever to happen you can bet your life that getting rid of the 'Championship ceiling' for their colts would become their first target. Oh yes, all hail the Arsecheeks, ambitions to become champions of England AND Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, virginton said: La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue Un, Eredivisie and the Premier League must all be shite and unentertaining leagues by your idiotic theory. The premiership often has 7 teams in Europe, so the top 10 or so can all be playing for that. Not going to happen up here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, spiggle said: Here is what I would do for reconstruction. This season 14-10-10-10, keep things as they are as it's the only way to appease everyone. Next Season go to a 12-12-20 format. Both championship and premiership the same, spitting the same. The seasides leagues going to Seaside League North and South. with the pyramid below. Winners of Highland League feeding into North and Lowland League into south, either through a playoff or automatic relegation So, that would potentially look something like below in 2021 (used as an example) Prem Celtic, Rangers, Motherwell, Livingston, Aberdeen, Hibs, St Johnstone, Kilmarnock, Ross County, St Mirren, Hamilton and Dundee Utd Championship Hearts, Inverness CT, Ayr Utd, Dunfermline, Dundee, QOS, Morton, Arbroath, Alloa, Partick Thistle, Falkirk and Raith Rovers Seaside North Cove Rangers, Elgin, Peterhead, Brechin City, Montrose, Forfar, East Fife, Cowdenbeath, Stirling Albion and Brora Rangers Seaside South Stranraer, Annan, Kelty Hearts, Dumbarton, Clyde, Edinburgh City, Airdrie, Stenhousemuir, Queens Park and Albion Rovers. It's not perfect but the big teams are not going to vote for less games against the Old Firm and it makes sense to regionalise below the Championship to reduce potential travel costs in this current climate. Kelty is north of Cowden incase you didn’t realise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Wilbur said: The Arsecheeks colts teams achieving league status would be their foothold within Scottish football if (stretch of imagination required here) the English authorities ever allowed their big boys into their league set-up. If that was ever to happen you can bet your life that getting rid of the 'Championship ceiling' for their colts would become their first target. Oh yes, all hail the Arsecheeks, ambitions to become champions of England AND Scotland. Eredivisie, amongst others, has a play off for European places. No reason we couldn't do that to keep things interesting. 16 team league (for instance) Top 2 UCL qualifiers 3rd: EL qualifier 4th: ECL qualifier 5th-8th - Play off for last ECL place. 9th-10th - meh 11th-14th relegation play off 15th-16th relegated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Eredivisie, amongst others, has a play off for European places. No reason we couldn't do that to keep things interesting. 16 team league (for instance) Top 2 UCL qualifiers 3rd: EL qualifier 4th: ECL qualifier 5th-8th - Play off for last ECL place. 9th-10th - meh 11th-14th relegation play off 15th-16th relegated We should follow the Brazilian setup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staggy4life Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Uncle Roy saying no to any reconstruction as he thinks it's now too late for any change before the new season. Good lad. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, jamamafegan said: The dead runner chat has been debunked as complete rubbish because it has been explained on here by several people, time and time again, that the risk of dead rubber fixtures can be mitigated effectively through implementing play-offs and other such initiatives into the league season. It’s also been pointed out that other nations operate with bigger leagues and manage to get by just fine - so yes I agree, the dead rubber chat should be thrown in the bin where it belongs. And if the people who continue to moan about “meaningless games” aren’t happy about that then I invite them to also get into said bin. You fucking get in the bin and take your 5 teams with you you c**t. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpLok Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, big al said: Kelty is north of Cowden incase you didn’t realise. Kelty is also north of Stirling as well. Suggests this isn't the best thought through plan... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Teams are going to struggle to survive next season and these morons are still pushing for reconstruction.Make the decision then sort out what is happening next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, virginton said: La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue Un, Eredivisie and the Premier League must all be shite and unentertaining leagues by your idiotic theory. They fucking are. Give me Scottish football played on threadbare grass any day of the week over that sanitised shite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, ShrimpLok said: Kelty is also north of Stirling as well. Suggests this isn't the best thought through plan... Correct 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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