djchapsticks Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Pet Jeden said: They won’t. Clubs like St Mirren, Accies and Ross County got lucky with timing and with their avoid-relegation interests coinciding with Doncaster’s TV bonus interests and Celtic supporting board members 9IAR/ Euro interests. They ain’t giving up that lifebelt. Even if the “temporary” is taken away from the reconstruction - which I agree is daft. Yeah, on your way. You've already proven you are not worth the arguing with. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. X said: Good luck with that Considering Hearts voted to end the season after a vote that clarified that the ending of the season would see them relegated, I'm not hugely sure why you think any neutral judge is going to look at it and decide Hearts fate was unfairly decided. Especially since the French league has now joined Scotland in deciding relegation based on average points per game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Wee message to hearts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: Got lucky with timing. Get fucked: you were bottom of the league since Christmas. 7 minutes ago, Mr. X said: Good luck with that Legal action is a 100% non-starter. Feel free to bookmark this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 The truth is no reconstruction is going to work. Its all about the compensation now. Let's just say that Hearts do take legal action. And somehow win because there was a possibility of them not finishing bottom, or being relegated in a playoff. Why would every other club not take the same legal action for what they could have done? Hibs could have finished 3rd and qualified for Europe. Prize money for finishing higher in the league plus European football would be worth I'd guess around 2m to Hibs for example. Rangers could potentially say that they could have won the league and qualified for the Champions League, that's worth probably 20m to them.Now it's blatantly obvious that the SPFL don't have the money to pay these liabilities. So in this scenario the SPFL would be liquidated and Hearts in the best case scenario would be entitled to a part of the assets they have. Which is f**k all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, AberdeenHibee said: 90% of posters on Jambos Kickback are now heralding legal action to try and kill off as many other clubs as they can. They are outraged that we morally-correct clubs are away to vote down their utter sham of a proposal. The wool will not be pulled over our eyes. It is no other club's fault that Hearts have managed to finish bottom with the 3rd largest budget in the land (including Diamond Daniel Stendel's £12,000 per week salary). If Heart's gross, unfathomable mismanagement of their football club results in financial difficulties (for the second time in 6 years by the way), then I am sorry Jambos, but it is time for you to meet your maker. It just shows that Budge has done her job. Shes completely distracted the fanbase from the horrendous state shes got it in, football wise, and the horrendous season theyve had. A trick Rangers pull on their moron fanbase almost yearly. Had expected Hearts fans would be able to see through that a bit more, yet here we are. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I do think it's a bit crass to suggest there's no unfairness for Hearts here. Clearly, this is pretty tough to take. The truth of the matter is there's just no feasible or practical way to proceed other than for them to take their medicine here. I was open minded to temporary reconstruction but it's not practical and there's literally no incentive for other clubs to vote for it other than this sense of injustice for Hearts. It's not enough though, not nearly enough. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: I do think it's a bit crass to suggest there's no unfairness for Hearts here. Clearly, this is pretty tough to take. Football isn't meant to be fair though so this point of view is irrelevant to what should happen. A pandemic stopping the season is not fundamentally different to a dodgy goal relegating them on the last day of the season: you don't get a rerun because you don't like the outcome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: All my jambo pals have sent cheques of hundreds of quid to hertz every time they're in trouble, you're not talking about a dispassionate group of people aanalysing something with any detachment. Fair point. Suspect there'll be a cash cow at Tynecastle again next season so fans can fund a court battle. You certainly cant expect a football club to fund itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Apologies if I missed it, but this situation of prize money changing but compensated for by Hearts not getting parachute payments, would that change the requirement for an 11-1 vote? It was looked at yesterday, cant remember the details for sure, but here goes - The bottom 6 Prem payments drop by 0.25% per place down to the 4.5% Hearts get presently. Dundee Utd and ICT get 2.25% and 1.9% respectively. So, if we move into Budges brave new world, the only sensible option is to adjust to 4.25% and 4%? Those numbers make a far larger cash figure than the £300k parachute payment. So, the money has to come from somewhere - if its not the Premiership (to save her needing an 11-1 vote) then it has to be taking the crumbs from the lower leagues table. To be kind? It seems ill conceived. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, virginton said: Football isn't meant to be fair though so this point of view is irrelevant to what should happen. A pandemic stopping the season is not fundamentally different to a dodgy goal relegating them on the last day of the season: you don't get a rerun because you don't like the outcome. I'm not sure what the point of this post is, and I at no point suggested a rerun. Thanks for taking the time to reply though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Get doon with some dignity you Mumm Ra faced c**t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparticus Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: I do think it's a bit crass to suggest there's no unfairness for Hearts here. Clearly, this is pretty tough to take. The truth of the matter is there's just no feasible or practical way to proceed other than for them to take their medicine here. I was open minded to temporary reconstruction but it's not practical and there's literally no incentive for other clubs to vote for it other than this sense of injustice for Hearts. It's not enough though, not nearly enough. Its not unfair under the circumstances, it's more unlucky. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: I'm not sure what the point of this post is, and I at no point suggested a rerun. Thanks for taking the time to reply though. Try reading for the sake of comprehension then champ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, virginton said: Try reading for the sake of comprehension then champ. Well, 'football isn't meant to be fair' is the kind of broad brush, stupid statement you have seemingly committed yourself to on this forum for some time so I'm not sure it's worth it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 9 hours ago, weetoonlad said: Not a chance in hell dead duck from the start. She's no got a clue You called it. To be fair you called a top division of every even number from 12 to 20 depending on the prevailing wind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrhead1 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 This proposal makes Dominic Cummings seem reasonable. Lets relegate four teams from league 1 and not promote Cove. Let the championship take gates from Dumbarton and Montrose away supports etc and see a far less competitive league Let 3 teams come down from premiership and then reconstruct again to what actually works at present. (unless of course Hearts were one of the three!) After all it is all about what is good for Scottish Football and nothing whatsoever about self preservation. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said: Well, 'football isn't meant to be fair' is the kind of broad brush, stupid statement you have seemingly committed yourself to on this forum for some time so I'm not sure it's worth it. You're not sure if it's 'worth' comprehending written words? Looks like we've just found the most stupid statement on the forum then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, virginton said: You're not sure if it's 'worth' comprehending written words? Looks like we've just found the most stupid statement on the forum then. Cutting stuff, looks like you won that one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgin proud Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 x 14 is an improvement to the current model. Expand the play offs and let's go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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