Bestsinceslicebread Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 6 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: Since it's the one guaranteed cup competition for the WoSFL just now, I thought it would be good to highlight the scale of the competition going into 2020-21. Its the main competition for the Lowland League area pyramid leagues: Lowland Football League, East of Scotland Football League, South of Scotland Football League and now the West of Scotland Football League. The way things stand there could be as many as 144 clubs entering next season's competition. Based on current standings you've got the following teams: Lowland Football League Berwick Rangers Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic BSC Glasgow Caledonian Braves Civil Service Strollers Cumbernauld Colts Dalbeattie Star East Kilbride East Stirlingshire Edinburgh University Gala Fairydean Rovers Gretna 2008 Kelty Hearts The Spartans Stirling University Vale of Leithen East of Scotland Football League Premier Division: Blackburn United Bo'ness United Broxburn Athletic Camelon Juniors Crossgates Primrose Dunbar United Dundonald Bluebell Hill of Beath Hawthorn Jeanfield Swifts Linlithgow Rose Musselburgh Athletic Newtongrange Star Penicuik Athletic Sauchie Juniors Tranent Juniors Whitehill Welfare First Division: Arniston Rangers Burntisland Shipyard Coldstream Craigroyston Dalkeith Thistle Dunipace Easthouses Lily Miners Welfare Edinburgh United Glenrothes Haddington Athletic Hawick Royal Albert United Heriot-Watt University Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts Kinnoull Leith Athletic Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale Oakley United Ormiston Peebles Rovers Preston Athletic St Andrews United Tweedmouth Rangers Tynecastle South of Scotland Football League Abbey Vale Creetown Heston Rovers Lochar Thistle Lochmaben Mid-Annandale Newton Stewart Nithsdale Wanderers St Cuthbert Wanderers Threave Rovers Upper Annandale Wigtown & Bladnoch West of Scotland Football League Annbank United Ardeer Thistle Ardrossan Winton Rovers Arthurlie Ashfield Auchinleck Talbot Beith Juniors Bellshill Athletic Benburb Blantyre Victoria Bonnyton Thistle Cambuslang Rangers Carluke Rovers Clydebank Craigmark Burntonians Cumbernauld United Cumnock Juniors Dalry Thistle Darvel Drumchapel United East Kilbride Thistle Forth Wanderers Gartcairn Juniors Girvan Glasgow Perthshire Glasgow University Glenafton Athletic Greenock Juniors Hurlford United Irvine Meadow XI Irvine Victoria Johnstone Burgh Kello Rovers Kilbirnie Ladeside Kilsyth Rangers Kilwinning Rangers Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Lanark United Largs Thistle Larkhall Thistle Lesmahagow Lugar Boswell Thistle Maryhill Maybole Muirkirk Neilston Juniors Newmains United Petershill Pollok Port Glasgow Renfrew Rossvale Royal Albert Rutherglen Glencairn Saltcoats Victoria Shettleston Shotts Bon Accord St Anthony's St Cadocs YC St Roch's Thorniewood United Troon Vale of Clyde Vale of Leven Whitletts Victoria Wishaw Yoker Athletic Known Applicants/Returns Edinburgh South Eyemouth United Kennoway Star Hearts Kirkcaldy & Dysart Lochgelly Albert Lochore Welfare Luncarty Newburgh Rosyth Thornton Hibs This seriously looks like an exciting competition 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bestsinceslicebread said: This seriously looks like an exciting competition Should be good. Its basically a Junior Cup to many. All that's missing is a potential trip to the Highlands and minus a handful of recognisable names still in the Juniors. And you've got the Borders trips plus old school names like Berwick Rangers, East Stirlingshire and Spartans that most will now to replace those. Edited April 15, 2020 by FairWeatherFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Just throwing this out there, a trip to the Highlands won't be a miss. [emoji6] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 3 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: I think they should do it. Not necessarily on those dates. But one week basically in their pre-season. It would be a good tool to help promote the upcoming 2020-21 edition. Have the final as a showpiece event in the Sunday of the weekend of the first round. I think that would draw interest! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 When looking at the list of entrants I was wondering why there were only 23 EOS First Division teams in there, until I realised Stirling University can't enter 2 teams. That's one thing in which Scottish football is better than Dutch football as in The Netherlands it is possible to have 2 teams of the same clubs in the same competition... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ginaro said: Preliminary round: 32 fixtures, 144->128; First round 128->64 etc. 32 Preliminary round fixtures would involve 64 clubs and reduce 144 entrants to 112. To cut 144 cubs down to 128 there would need to be 16 preliminary fixtures (involving 32 clubs!) with 112 getting byes. Edited April 15, 2020 by archieb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 4 hours ago, cmontheloknow said: You'll end up at Neilston Or St Cadoc's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig O'Lea Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 7 hours ago, cmontheloknow said: You'll end up at Neilston We'd take that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spit Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 So why do we still need the sjc, surely this replaces it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardenvohr6 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 So why do we still need the sjc, surely this replaces it It was a sweetener for the SJFA to have a role in football nationwide. It’ll create a fixture logjam and, in my opinion, will last only a season or two unless there is a national non league cup that TJ can run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 It was a sweetener for the SJFA to have a role in football nationwide. It’ll create a fixture logjam and, in my opinion, will last only a season or two unless there is a national non league cup that TJ can run.And that idea can sink to the bottom of the deepest ocean. TJ can stay as far away from running anything to do with the pyramid as is humanly possible.The wosfl does not need sjfa input in anyway, not even for a cup. The clubs can elect their own committee that can drive things forward and are forward thinking, not being run by those stuck in the past and in it for themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 The SJFA will never get the Highland League on board as they won't be able to provide the funding to make it worthwhile for them. If you don't have the Highland League you don't have a national non-league cup within the pyramid. It's going to take the SFA to get all the pyramid leagues involved. So it'll be up to their members promoting the idea in Non-Professional Game Board/Professional Game Board type meetings to sway the blazers into backing the idea. Right now there's the Scottish Cup and as proven the South Region Challenge Cup competition wise fills the void. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spit Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 So renewing junior membership only really benefits clubs who wish to play in the junior Cup? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, spit said: So renewing junior membership only really benefits clubs who wish to play in the junior Cup? Yes. If you're in the WoSFL all that being a member of the SJFA is participation in the Junior Cup. That has not yet even been confirmed as it requires changes to the SJFA constitution. It is entirely possible that those leagues that have remained Junior in the North and East will try to block that participation as the changes don't necessarily benefit them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 So renewing junior membership only really benefits clubs who wish to play in the junior Cup? There is no point in SJFA membership if you don't enter the Scottish Junior Cup. That's the only reason it is being suggested as an option. And it still isn't confirmed that it will be allowed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramidic Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, spit said: So renewing junior membership only really benefits clubs who wish to play in the junior Cup? "The annual subscription for each club shall be £35 and shall be payable before the Annual General meeting in each year." https://www.scottishjuniorfa.com/media/2422/sjfa-constitution-rules-2019-20.pdf The fee is quite modest really and I suppose that if clubs wished, they could field a development side in order to retain a link with their roots. Would it be worth Talbot putting out their full side if they draw for example Sauchie Juniors Community? Edited April 16, 2020 by Pyramidic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, Pyramidic said: "The annual subscription for each club shall be £35 and shall be payable before the Annual General meeting in each year." https://www.scottishjuniorfa.com/media/2422/sjfa-constitution-rules-2019-20.pdf The fee is quite modest really and I suppose that if clubs wished, they could field a development side in order to retain a link with their roots. Would it be worth Talbot putting out their full side if they draw for example Sauchie Juniors Community? From what i've seen said, one of the reasons the subscription is so low is because of the things like fines. The SJFA are about to lose a majority of their income from fines and reinstatement fees from the loss of the West Region and East Region clubs. So the SJFA might have to reassess its current operating model to continue to administer support to the regions and cup competition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monalie Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 16 hours ago, cmontheloknow said: You'll end up at Neilston I hope not, pubs are poor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 37 minutes ago, Monalie said: I hope not, pubs are poor. At least you can walk home, all downhill too! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monalie Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, cmontheloknow said: At least you can walk home, all downhill too! Sadly not.............................I live in Neilston 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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