Tutankhamen Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 League secretary Gary McLelland said, a lot of work has went into this........ Pity they couldn't spell Pollok correctly. Polloc ffs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Tutankhamen said: Where the f**k is mid Annandale? Hope that helps! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I hope sticking a team 75 miles away from some of the opposition and throwing about terms like "local" isn't a reflection of the brains behind the LL/EoSFL/WoSFL leadership. That's about the level of the thicko's in the old SJWR regime. Lockerbie to Shettleston, local? On a Friday night with a 8pm kick off, by lads that might have done a day's graft since early morn. Having a giraffe, me thinks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said: I hope sticking a team 75 miles away from some of the opposition and throwing about terms like "local" isn't a reflection of the brains behind the LL/EoSFL/WoSFL leadership. That's about the level of the thicko's in the old SJWR regime. Lockerbie to Shettleston, local? On a Friday night with a 8pm kick off, by lads that might have done a day's graft since early morn. Having a giraffe, me thinks. Bonnyton & Mid-Annandale presumably ended up in the larger Conference because they're experienced Development League sides not expected to fold during the season. They've previously managed the travel schedule of the all in Lowland/East/South Conferences and have shown they can handle the 15 long-ish distance away games. Whereas the clubs that have to travel to them only do it for a total of 2 games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Bonnyton & Mid-Annandale presumably ended up in the larger Conference because they're experienced Development League sides not expected to fold during the season. They've previously managed the travel schedule of the all in Lowland/East/South Conferences and have shown they can handle the 15 long-ish distance away games. Whereas the clubs that have to travel to them only do it for a total of 2 games. Fair enough. Curious about the line "expected to fold". Is that a possibility with some teams even so early on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Fair enough. Curious about the line "expected to fold". Is that a possibility with some teams even so early on? Have you seen the amount of youth sides who folded last year (not necessarily in the LDL)? 40% at under-19s in the main leagues in the West. For a variety of reasons. The Paisley, Johnstone and District 19s ended with 22 - HALF of what it was in 2015/16. It’s a trip - but they had to be placed somewhere. It’ll be a decent trip too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said: Fair enough. Curious about the line "expected to fold". Is that a possibility with some teams even so early on? Last year there were some withdrawals or changes. It's a possibility and one they've tried to prevent by organising largely at a local level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 its a bit different for teams in development league than traditional grassroots teams and less chance of folding. Why, because the teams in the development league are really operated and officially run by the first team. If said team fold then the first team have a fine of £250 and then if the first team want to put a team back in the following year or years to come then they have to pay a bankers fee of £500 as a guarantee against folding again 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTID Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) Could be wrong but I don’t think it’s got anything to do with folding, more just keeping the current west Development teams together. That would explain the Bonnyton situation. I’d also add teams folding will be down to results and lack of players, rather than travel. Boys clubs used to winning in their grassroots league taking the step up and finding it difficult. Edited July 10, 2020 by BTID 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Par for the course that a few teams will fold during the season, usually player shortage the cause. The Development LGE is a step up from a youth League where you can probably p-p games at late stages. Everyone should be ready to travel a bit further, not 3 or 4 hour drives regularly is it ? Hopefully the league stays strong and progresses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) What's people's views of who is expected to be the strongest teams in each conference division. This is something I'm seriously looking forward to and think there will be plenty of exciting games every Friday. The only confusion, which games do we go to each week Conference A Conference B Conference C Bellshill Athletic Blantyre Victoria Bonnyton Thistle BSC Glasgow Caledonian Braves Carluke Rovers Cumbernauld Colts East Kilbride Forth Wanderers Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Mid Annandale Newmains United Shettleston St Roch’s Benburb Clydebank Drumchapel United Johnstone Burgh Maryhill Pollok Renfrew Rossvale St Anthony’s St Cadocs Vale of Leven Yoker Athletic Ardrossan Winton Rovers Arthurlie Beith Cumnock Darvel Irvine Meadow Kilwinning Rangers Largs Thistle Maybole Neilston Troon Whittles Victoria My view only Conference A; I can see BSC, Caledonian Braves, Bonnyton and Colts up there, with East Kilrbirde, Kirky Rob Roy and Bellshill following behind Conference B; Clydebank look the strongest Conference C; I haven't a scooby Definitely feel as if the teams who have been in the development past few years have an advantage and hopefully the rest will catch up quick Edited July 11, 2020 by Bestsinceslicebread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) Curious to know where the money is coming from for some of those ex Junior youth teams. Doesn't seem that long ago some of those clubs were looking for people to help out at committee level never mind run a youth team. Edited July 11, 2020 by Tutankhamen It's all about money money money 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said: Curious to know where the money is coming from for some of those ex Junior youth teams. Doesn't seem that long ago some of those clubs were looking for people to help out at committee level never mind run a youth team. Unsure what you are meaning as its costing similar to what it costs to run a U19s or u21s team From what I'm hearing just same principles 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Not sure of cost in Scotland, down here in Bristol the 3g pitches are around £75+ per game,plus the referee costs (they having linesmen in the dev lge ? ) Guessing the players will pay match fees ? Even if it was £100 a game, that still adds up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Bestsinceslicebread said: Unsure what you are meaning as its costing similar to what it costs to run a U19s or u21s team From what I'm hearing just same principles At least three teams listed were on the P&B Junior forum within the last couple of years asking for help to keep the clubs alive. In the first instance it was volunteers and the second part was money. The committee were old and there was so few supporters that the danger would be the clubs would fold without help coming forward. Interestingly one team not listed is Talbot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said: At least three teams listed were on the P&B Junior forum within the last couple of years asking for help to keep the clubs alive. In the first instance it was volunteers and the second part was money. The committee were old and there was so few supporters that the danger would be the clubs would fold without help coming forward. Interestingly one team not listed is Talbot. Some seem to have aligned with existing youth clubs/teams so its just moving from one banner to another. Probably helps from the youth point of view as they can sell things as a pathway to first team/senior football and keep that pool of players together. EDIT: Maryhill came to mind as a club that had a public call for support not too long ago. They've linked up with an existing yfc. Edited July 11, 2020 by FairWeatherFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said: At least three teams listed were on the P&B Junior forum within the last couple of years asking for help to keep the clubs alive. In the first instance it was volunteers and the second part was money. The committee were old and there was so few supporters that the danger would be the clubs would fold without help coming forward. Interestingly one team not listed is Talbot. Its very easy to see why. its different from the junior days, youth players are seeing potential to go to a higher level. in every football committee and set up there are older members and younger ones coming through with updated visions they can be in a U20s team and then if doing well make the step to the first team for experience and if too much, go back to the u20s until developed and ready its a pathway, there is interest from all angles , there's more people wanting involved, there's youths seeing a clear pathway and want to stay in football at a chance of it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballermk Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Youth football has been dying on its arse for ten twenty years now, just look at the big hitters that have folded and the utter collapse of the under 21 system in recently not to mention the coach's most of whom flit about from team to team thinking they know what they are talking about in reality they are clueless. If lose less than ten teams by end up up and coming season they are doing well. Don't be kidded on out of a hundred junior supporters you'll be lucky if 25 go to one of these games a season and lucky if 10 go regular thats the harsh reality. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 and doom and gloom is back Anyways folks, which team are you going to follow out of the 68 development teams 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Hopefully all clubs can attract 50+ through the gate (fans,friends and family) all chucking at least £3 in the pot - goes some way to help out. As mentioned above, it's time for youngsters to help out the clubs regards committee's etc - the old guys don't last forever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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