WOSFL

[Stag Nation]

3 minutes ago, ski64 said:

Wouldn't a 16 , 16 , 18 , 17 set up work slightly better.
Means only one division has an odd number with scope at the lowest division to add any later applications.
The slightly reduced numbers in top 2 divisions giving more leeway for teams potentially going further in cups.
Interesting times ahead.

I think the question was about the conferences next season, not the 'permanent' set-up.

[FairWeatherFan]

4 minutes ago, ski64 said:

Wouldn't a 16 , 16 , 18 , 17 set up work slightly better.
Means only one division has an odd number with scope at the lowest division to add any later applications.
The slightly reduced numbers in top 2 divisions giving more leeway for teams potentially going further in cups.
Interesting times ahead.

There are no lower divisions in the first season. They are all equal. Think of it like the Champions League group stage.

[Samsonite]

Have been reading this forum for a while but not posted mainly due to the repeated arguments in the juniors topic of league reconstruction.

Being North based I don't have great insight into the Junior setup, what's the general consensus from fans are you happy to have left the Juniors to join the SPFL pyramid system, will the new WOS leagues now follow the rules & regulations of the SPFL or is there still some element of control from SJFA who from stories sound a bit "outdated" to say the least.

[Pyramidic]

1 minute ago, FairWeatherFan said:

There are no lower divisions in the first season. They are all equal. Think of it like the Champions League group stage.

If this horrible epidemic does not free up we could be waiting a long time. The Germans appear to be ahead of the game re Covid-19 and this is a recent extract;

- 'Ghost games' possibly until fall of 2021 -

The German National Academy of Sciences, the Leopoldina, recommended on Easter Monday that Germany could begin to reduce coronavirus restrictions. But its president, Gerauld Haug, has told public broadcaster ARD that football supporters will likely have to wait a lot longer before they can return to stadiums.

"It will take months, it could even take one and a half years," said Haug when asked how long football matches would have to remain behind closed doors, a timeline which would stretch until the latter part of 2021.

The 52-year-old insisted that the coronavirus pandemic will only truly be over "once a vaccine is available" and that stadium visits before then would "not be wise."

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-sports-cancellations/a-52569936

 

Going back to FWF's point we could even be looking at 8 groups of 8 or 9 clubs in each with restrictions on numbers of spectators allowed in small gatherings

[glensmad]

Have been reading this forum for a while but not posted mainly due to the repeated arguments in the juniors topic of league reconstruction.
Being North based I don't have great insight into the Junior setup, what's the general consensus from fans are you happy to have left the Juniors to join the SPFL pyramid system, will the new WOS leagues now follow the rules & regulations of the SPFL or is there still some element of control from SJFA who from stories sound a bit "outdated" to say the least.

The SJFA have no input whatsoever into the running of the WoSFL.

[morley]

1 hour ago, Burnieclub78 said:

 

Average crowds for most LL clubs (and for that matter EoS Premier and many HL clubs)  are easily on a par or higher with upto most junior west championship clubs and below and compete with many of the average figures for the West premiership clubs. 

Edited April 15, 2020 by morley

[cmontheloknow]

Maybe missed it somewhere but see Drumchapel United have confirmed their management team (addition of Jon Connolly as GCH) - any suggestion of where they're playing games? Still at Donald Dewar?

[WitsTheGoalieDain?]

Aye still at the Donald Dewar, nightmare for away fans.

[Pyramidic]

7 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said:

Maybe missed it somewhere but see Drumchapel United have confirmed their management team (addition of Jon Connolly as GCH) - any suggestion of where they're playing games? Still at Donald Dewar?

 

 

 

Edited April 15, 2020 by Pyramidic

[Junior Pub League]

32 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said:

Maybe missed it somewhere but see Drumchapel United have confirmed their management team (addition of Jon Connolly as GCH) - any suggestion of where they're playing games? Still at Donald Dewar?

Sharing with Maryhill

[The Ilford Drummer]

1 hour ago, Stag Nation said:

I think the question was about the conferences next season, not the 'permanent' set-up.

Correct was asking about next season..

Over 30 games is a tall order

[theesel1994]

https://wosfl.co.uk/

They've started to fill this in a bit now.

[DanMan]

1 hour ago, ski64 said:

Wouldn't a 16 , 16 , 18 , 17 set up work slightly better.
Means only one division has an odd number with scope at the lowest division to add any later applications.
The slightly reduced numbers in top 2 divisions giving more leeway for teams potentially going further in cups.
Interesting times ahead.

For season 1 my understanding is there is no lower division ?? 4 conferences, mixed. I might have it wrong and apologise if that is the case. 

[Pyramidic]

1 hour ago, Pyramidic said:

If this horrible epidemic does not free up we could be waiting a long time. The Germans appear to be ahead of the game re Covid-19 and this is a recent extract;

- 'Ghost games' possibly until fall of 2021 -

The German National Academy of Sciences, the Leopoldina, recommended on Easter Monday that Germany could begin to reduce coronavirus restrictions. But its president, Gerauld Haug, has told public broadcaster ARD that football supporters will likely have to wait a lot longer before they can return to stadiums.

"It will take months, it could even take one and a half years," said Haug when asked how long football matches would have to remain behind closed doors, a timeline which would stretch until the latter part of 2021.

The 52-year-old insisted that the coronavirus pandemic will only truly be over "once a vaccine is available" and that stadium visits before then would "not be wise."

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-sports-cancellations/a-52569936

 

Going back to FWF's point we could even be looking at 8 groups of 8 or 9 clubs in each with restrictions on numbers of spectators allowed in small gatherings

I think that it may be beneficial to split the 4 Conferences as follows given the possibility of a greatly curtailed season for 2020/21 because of Covid-19:

Conference A (17 clubs)
- Section 1 (8 clubs)
- Section 2 (9 clubs)

Conference B (17 clubs)
- Section 1 (8 clubs)
- Section 2 (9 clubs)

Conference C (17 clubs)
- Section 1 (8 clubs)
- Section 2 (9 clubs)

Conference D (16 clubs)
- Section 1 (8 clubs)
- Section 2 (8 clubs)

The Section games are played first and if there is enough time games can then be played against clubs in the other Section (once or twice dependent on circumstances).

This way the results should remain meaningful even if the season is seriously truncated.

[Dev]

3 hours ago, morley said:

Am i right that i seen someone post on here a while back saying the EoS and LL expect their clubs to publish attendance figures? What was the expectation in the West Juniors previously? 

No. I was just flying a kite in the hope that the pyramid leagues below the SPFL would keep and publish league game attendances. 

It's been interesting to see the Head-Count figures here on P&B by @Burnieclub78 . Thought the idea could be developed further.

Edited April 15, 2020 by Dev
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[glensmad]

For season 1 my understanding is there is no lower division ?? 4 conferences, mixed. I might have it wrong and apologise if that is the case. 

You are correct.

[Dev]

2 hours ago, The Ilford Drummer said:

So what's the smart money on?

3 x17 and 1x16?

Given the uncertainties about when fixtures can re-start, at any level, it could be prudent to start with five smaller conferences (2x14 and 3x13) as you need to find the overall champions in time for the play-offs for promotion to the Lowland League (assuming that the Champs will be Licenced and can take part in the play-offs). 

That's also putting aside other possible problems such as the weather or a repeat of the current virus situation (God Forbid).

Which clubs are most likely to reach Entry Licence level by the Feb 2021 dead-line? Anyone any thoughts? Talbot, Kilwinning, Rutherglen, Clydebank, Yoker, etc?

[Dev]

1 hour ago, Pyramidic said:

If this horrible epidemic does not free up we could be waiting a long time. The Germans appear to be ahead of the game re Covid-19 and this is a recent extract;

- 'Ghost games' possibly until fall of 2021 -

The German National Academy of Sciences, the Leopoldina, recommended on Easter Monday that Germany could begin to reduce coronavirus restrictions. But its president, Gerauld Haug, has told public broadcaster ARD that football supporters will likely have to wait a lot longer before they can return to stadiums.

"It will take months, it could even take one and a half years," said Haug when asked how long football matches would have to remain behind closed doors, a timeline which would stretch until the latter part of 2021.

The 52-year-old insisted that the coronavirus pandemic will only truly be over "once a vaccine is available" and that stadium visits before then would "not be wise."

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-sports-cancellations/a-52569936

 

Going back to FWF's point we could even be looking at 8 groups of 8 or 9 clubs in each with restrictions on numbers of spectators allowed in small gatherings

Truly scary stuff and that's Germany where they started off with a huge number of labs which were able to carry out testing from the start of the outbreak there. UK and others weren't so fortunate and are playing catch-up so could we be into spectator-less matches for a period.

If this is the case then maybe the pyramid leagues should get together and create a live video subscription channel for supporters. A small subscription would be due from viewers - some of whom may be from far and wide. The money earned would be used to help out clubs/leagues. It would also help clubs to retain advertisers with boards at grounds. Quite a few clubs broadcast highlights already. Just a thought.

[Dev]

1 hour ago, morley said:

Average crowds for most LL clubs (and for that matter EoS Premier and many HL clubs)  are easily on a par or higher with upto most junior west championship clubs and below and compete with many of the average figures for the West premiership clubs. 

The problem with the West stats is that so few games were recorded as there was a later start there. The figures aren't yet representative. Hopefully this will be different from now on though.

[cmontheloknow]

7 minutes ago, Dev said:

The problem with the West stats is that so few games were recorded as there was a later start there. The figures aren't yet representative. Hopefully this will be different from now on though.

A reasonable point for clubs with 0-2 returns but as it goes higher the pattern gets established.

Edited April 15, 2020 by cmontheloknow